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Z1000SX 2011 SERVICE MANUAL  Service Manual - Ninja 1000 - 2011.pdf

Z1000SX 2015 SERVICE MANUAL  Z1000SX.2015 service manual.pdf

Z1000SX 2017 SERVICE MANUAL  2017 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 Service Manual 99924-1519-31.pdf

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2020 Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX SE

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ADDITIONAL VEHICLE FEATURES:
Assist and Slipper clutch
Integrated Riding Modes
Electronic Cruise Control
TFT Color Instrumentation
Kawasaki Quick Shifter (KQS)
Power Mode Selection
Smartphone Connectivity via RIDEOLOGY THE APP
Bridgestone BATTALAX Hypersport S22 Tires

 

2020 Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX SE Key Features
  • NEW ELECTRONIC THROTTLE VALVES WITH CRUISE CONTROL
  • NEW DUAL-DIRECTION KAWASAKI QUICK SHIFTER (KQS)
  • NEW INTEGRATED RIDING MODES
  • NEW TFT COLOR INSTRUMENTATION WITH SMARTPHONE CONNECTIVITY
  • NEW STYLING

 

 

 

2020 Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX SE Features and Benefits

NEW FOR 2020

Integrated Riding Modes:

Sport, Road, Rain, Rider (manual)

  • All-inclusive modes that link KTRC, Power Mode and KECS allow riders to efficiently set traction control, power delivery and suspension character to suit a given riding situation.
  • Riders can choose from Sport, Road, Rain or a manual setting (Rider). In the manual Rider mode, each of the systems can be set independently.

–              Sport: enables riders to enjoy sporty riding on winding roads.

–              Road: offers comfortable riding over a wide range of situations, from city riding to highway cruising and rural roads.

–              Rain: offers rider reassurance when riding on a wet road surface.

  • The riding mode can be changed while riding, using the button at the left side of the handlebar.
  • Allows a desired speed to be maintained with the simple press of a button so that the rider does not have to constantly modulate the throttle. This reduces stress on the right hand when traveling long distances, enabling relaxed cruising and contributing to a high level of riding comfort.
  • Once the desired speed has been selected, engine output is adjusted automatically via the Electronic Throttle Valves to maintain speed when ascending or descending grades are encountered. The set speed can be adjusted using the “+” and “-” buttons.
  • Operating the brake lever, clutch lever or rear brake pedal, or shifting gears, causes the Electronic Cruise Control to disengage. Closing the throttle beyond the “zero-throttle” position is another instinctive way to disengage the system. The system also disengages automatically in the event of a significant traction control intervention.
  • New Electronic Throttle Valves (ETV) enable the ECU to optimize the volume of both the fuel, via the injectors, and the air, via the throttle valves, delivered to the engine. Optimized fuel injection and throttle position results in smooth, natural engine response and ideal engine output.
  • The ETV has the accelerator position sensor located at the handlebar instead of the throttle body, eliminating throttle cable maintenance. Friction is built in to the twist grip to simulate the feel of a traditional throttle cable.
  • FI and ETV settings combine for quick and smooth throttle response that helps with low-speed maneuverability, roll-on power and contributes to sport riding potential.
  • A contactless-type quick shifter enables clutchless upshifts and downshifts for seamless acceleration and quick and easy deceleration.
  • During acceleration, the system detects that the shift lever has been actuated, and sends a signal to the ECU to cut ignition so that the next gear can be engaged without having to use the clutch or backing off the throttle.
  • During deceleration, the KQS system automatically controls engine speed, allowing downshifts without operating the clutch as long as the throttle is closed.
  • KQS does not function below 2,500 rpm.
  • Revised cam profiles reduce tappet noise for a quieter-running engine.
  • Shorter outer intake funnels for cylinders 1 and 4 help reduce emissions and match the exhaust layout.
  • All-new exhaust system is a 4-into-2-into pre-chamber into-1 layout, with the new single-sided muffler reducing weight by approximately 4.5 pounds. Three-way catalyzers in the exhaust collector help reduce emissions.
  • New low-speed slit added to the damping pistons relieve negative pressure build-up during compression for smoother fork action.
  • Overall suspension settings have been fine-tuned to enhance the Ninja 1000SX’s sport touring potential by accommodating both sport riding and comfortable touring.
  • Now fitted with Bridgestone’s latest BATTLAX HYPERSPORT S22 tires for lighter handling with enhanced grip in both dry and wet conditions.
  • New three-piece side fairing enhances the appearance.
  • New supersport-style front fender contributes to the sportier image.
  • Longer under-cowl contributes to a more dynamic appearance.
  • Revised windshield is set at slightly more upright angle and now has four positions instead of three ranging from sporty to maximum wind protection. The release button below the instrument panel is retained so that windshield adjustment is simple without the need for tools.

The high-grade full-color multi-meter display features TFT (thin-film transistor) technology to provide a sharp, clear display. The screen’s background color is selectable (black or white), and screen brightness adjusts automatically to suit available light. In addition to scrollable multi- function windows, two display modes offer riders a choice of how they want their information presented.

  • Type 1: easy-to-read, calm layout offers a substantial amount of information at-a-glance designed with touring in mind.
  • Type 2: designed for sport application, important information is prioritized and presented graphically for easy digestion. G-force (based on feedback from the IMU), and front brake application are illustrated visually.

*             Bluetooth chip allows connection to smartphone and RIDEOLOGY THE APP.

*             Handlebar switches allow the rider to easily scroll through all mode selection and display options at the touch of a finger.

 

RIDEOLOGY THE APP Smartphone Connectivity†

† Do not operate smartphone while riding

  • A Bluetooth® chip built into the instrument panel enables riders to connect to their motorcycle wirelessly. Using the smartphone application “RIDEOLOGY THE APP,” a number of instrument functions can be accessed, contributing to an enhanced motorcycling experience.

Available functions:

–              Vehicle Info: information such as fuel level, mileage, maintenance schedule, etc can be viewed via the smartphone.

–              Riding Log: GPS route information as well as vehicle running information can be logged and viewed via the smartphone.

–              Telephone notices: when a call or mail is received by the smartphone, it is indicated on the instrument display.

–              Vehicle Settings: Riding Mode (Road, Sport, Rain, Rider) can be set in advance on the smartphone and uploaded when paired with the bike, as can riding support systems (like KQS) and the payload mode.

–              General Settings: general instrument display settings (such as preferred units, date, date format, etc) can be adjusted via the smartphone.

  • Once vehicle information has been downloaded to the app, it can be viewed on the smartphone. Available information includes: mileage, trip A, trip B, fuel level, remaining range, average gas mileage, average speed, max lean angle (right/left), battery voltage, Kawasaki service reminder, oil change reminder, etc.
  • Detailed riding logs including GPS information and vehicle running information can be recorded. While riding, the app tracks vehicle speed, rpm, gear position, throttle position, front brake fluid pressure, acceleration/deceleration, current mileage, and coolant temperature from moment to moment. Once the riding log has been paired, riders can review these items in a graphic-style display at any point along the route. The app can also display a ride summary, with information that may include: route travelled, total distance, total time, gas mileage (best/average), speed (best/average), max lean angle (right/left), etc. For either display mode, riders can select which items are displayed, and can arrange them in their preferred order.
  • When riding with the app ON the bike and smartphone are always connected. When the engine is turned off, the latest riding information stored by the app may be viewed on the smartphone.

Any vehicle setting changes made via the app while the engine is off, or while out of range, will be uploaded when the ignition is turned on and the smartphone is in range with the app ON. General settings can only be updated via the app when the bike and smartphone are connected.

  • An app function updates the clock on the instrument display automatically when the bike and smartphone are connected.

 

ENGINE

  • Cylinder block connecting passages between cylinders relieve pressure to reduce pumping loss and increase high-rpm performance.
  • Tuned to deliver abundant low- and mid-range torque, with a distinctive power kick around 7,000 rpm.
  • Low crankshaft and five-degree downward engine tilt help the engine to maintain its compact size.
  • Secondary engine balancer is gear-driven off the crankshaft and helps eliminate engine vibration.
  • To decrease engine weight and improve heat transfer, the cylinders have linerless, chrome composite plated(KP) aluminum bores.

4-Valve Cylinder Head

  • Camshaft profiles enhance low-to-mid-range performance.
  • 38mm Keihin throttle bodies with DFI settings designed to help provide superb low to mid-range response.
  • Secondary air passages and resonator enhance intake howl for auditory pleasure.
  • High-flow air cleaner element design is similar to Ninja® ZX™-10R.
  • Air intakes are located high on the motorcycle so that engine heat has minimal effect on performance.
  • High sixth gear results in a smoother cruising rpm for more relaxed touring potential.

Assist & Slipper Clutch(KP)

  • Using the rotational forces of the clutch hub and pressure plate, the clutch is forced together during acceleration (Assist function) so that fewer and lighter clutch springs can be used for a lighter feel at the lever. During high back-torque, such as when too low of a gear is selected during downshifting, the Slipper function allows some clutch slippage to help prevent engine lock-up, stalling and rear wheel hop.

 

SUSPENSION

41mm Inverted Cartridge Front Fork(KP)

  • Fully adjustable inverted fork resists flex for superb handling.
  • Settings match frame stiffness to enhance handling.

Horizontal Back-link Rear Suspension(KP)

  • Remote preload adjuster knob allows preload to be easily changed to suit tandem riding or the addition of Kawasaki’s optional luggage system.
  • The linkage is placed atop the swingarm for better mass centralization and to make room for the exhaust pre-chamber.
  • Fully adjustable, lay-down shock absorber is further away from the exhaust so that its operation will not be affected by exhaust heat.
  • Pressed aluminum swingarm is lightweight and rigid. Eccentric chain adjusters add visual appeal.
  • Linkage ratios offer smooth and linear suspension response.

Brakes ABS(KP)

  • Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) assists braking under certain conditions.
  • Fluid pressure sensor added to ABS hydraulic unit to help suppress rear end lift during heavy braking for more precise control.

Radial Mounted Monobloc Brake Calipers

  • Radial-mounted monobloc front brake calipers utilize integrated mounting points at both the top and bottom of each caliper, which make the caliper more rigid for improved brake feel and performance.
  • Monobloc caliper is machined from a single aluminum block that contributes to superb feel, increased heat dissipation and lighter weight.
  • Radial pump front brake master cylinder improves brake performance and feel at the lever.

Lightweight Petal Brake Discs

  • Dual 300mm front discs with 4-piston calipers provide exceptional stopping power.
  • Single 250mm rear disc with single piston caliper is lightweight.
  • Petal design improves cooling and warp resistance.

 

ERGONOMICS

  • Seat is shaped for rider comfort and support.
  • The passenger seat is thicker at the front to help prevent the passenger from sliding forward.
  • Both seats have cold-resistant, high-elasticity covers that are comfortable and resist wear caused by temperature fluctuations.

AERODYNAMICS

Full Fairing

  • Aggressive appearance closely resembles the overall Ninja motorcycle image and provides sufficient wind protection suitable for sport touring.
  • Leading edge of fairing designed to direct air outward so that the bodywork can be slimmer in the mid section and rear flairs help direct hot air away from the rider’s legs.
  • Three-piece fairings help prevent wind blast and hot air from reaching the rider’s legs. The fairings also cover a portion of the frame for a smooth rider interface.
  • In addition to adding to the aggressive look, the dual LED headlights provide a bright beam while drawing approximately 50 percent less power than a conventional headlight bulb.

Adjustable Windscreen

  • Windscreen easily adjusts to one of four positions without the use of any tools.

OPTIONAL INTEGRATED KQR (KAWASAKI QUICK RELEASE) COLOR-MATCHED HARD CASE SADDLEBAGS

  • Saddlebag design integrates with the tail section and each saddlebag is large enough to hold a typical full-faced helmet.
  • Similar in design to the Concours® 14 mounts, the saddlebags can be easily removed and there’s no supporting framework to detract from the motorcycle’s design.
  • One-key lock system is convenient. Customized saddlebag locks are matched to the vehicle ignition key so that one key operates all locks on the bike.
  • Each bag is close to the motorcycle’s centerline for a narrow profile.
  • 47-liter top case also available for increased carrying capability.

 

CHASSIS

Aluminum Twin Tube Frame

  • Engine is used as stressed frame member with a mounting point at the front of the cylinder to help add rigidity.
  • Main spars and swingarm brackets are a single die-cast piece and are welded to the cast aluminum steering stem. Cross brackets attach to the inside of the spars so that there are fewer external welds and a cleaner overall appearance.
  • Die-cast aluminum sub-frame combines form and function so that side covers are unnecessary, resulting in reduced weight and narrower mid-section so that it’s easier for riders to reach the ground.
  • The frame uses four engine mounts, three rigid and one rubber for the upper rear crankcase mount. This mounting, and using the engine as a stressed member, helps the frame provide the excellent handling characteristics.

 

ELECTRONICS

The Ninja 1000SX is loaded with the latest technological systems that Kawasaki has to offer. Its traction control and ABS system now incorporate input from the new IMU for a higher level of electronic riding aid assistance.

Kawasaki Traction Control System (KTRC)(KP)

  • 3-mode system covers a wide range of riding conditions, offering either enhanced sport riding or rider assurance by facilitating smooth riding on slippery surfaces.
  • Modes 1 and 2 control ignition timing like S-KTRC, which uses complex analysis to predict when traction conditions are about to become unfavorable and act before wheel slippage exceeds the range for optimal traction. Mode 3 has higher sensitivity and controls ignition timing, fuel and air for ultra- smooth operation.
  • The system distinguishes between smooth, power front wheel lifts and sudden lift, allowing smooth lift if acceptable acceleration is maintained.
  • A switch on the left handlebar switch housing gives the rider the option to turn the system off.

Power Mode

  • Allows riders to set power characteristics to suit riding conditions and style. Riders can choose between full power operation or low power, which is approximately 70 percent of full with a milder throttle response.

Inertial Measurement Unit (IMU)(KP)

  • The IMU measures inertia along 5 axes: acceleration along longitudinal, transverse and vertical axes; roll rate, and pitch rate. The yaw rate is calculated by the ECU using Kawasaki’s patented software to provide six-axis chassis attitude input of lean angle and acceleration/deceleration force for more precise management of the electronic riding aids.
  • With the IMU, KTRC incorporates precise feedback to help provide smooth acceleration over a wide range of conditions and maximize acceleration when exiting corners.

Kawasaki Intelligent anti-lock Brake System (KIBS)(KP)

  • The same base system used on the Ninja H2™ and Ninja ZX-10R with revised programming settings to suit the performance parameters of the Ninja 1000SX.
  • Supersport-style high-precision system with smooth feedback for added braking confidence.
  • The engine ECU communicates with the ABS ECU (which monitors wheel speed and front caliper hydraulic pressure) to regulate brake pressure. The high-precision control provides a more consistent lever feel than conventional ABS systems.
  • Back torque limiting clutch system suppresses ABS function during downshifts for optimum performance.

Kawasaki Cornering Management Function (KCMF)

  • Cornering Management Function monitors both KIBS and KTRC to assist riders trace their intended line through a corner by helping to smooth braking and acceleration forces. The IMU helps the system maintain optimum hydraulic pressure based on the bike’s lean and pitch angles.

https://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcycles/2020/2020-kawasaki-ninja-1000sx-se

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Saj vem, da je teh YT testov že veliko, ampak men je Jens nekak najbolši. Zakaj? Sem zasledil že pr marsikaterem testu, da poda mnenje in tud pove, da je to pač njegovo mnenje o motorju.... Normalno, če te povabijo ne morš šinfat. 

 

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Ob 6. 2. 2020 ob 11:44, Snečer pravi:

.me prav zanima... :) tu na MS je standard 60 stopinj+

 

 

ko sem gledal en test, je možak povedal, da so povprečno dosegali na testu naklone tja 47-48 stopinj

še bolj pogumni do 50-52, in en diujak 53 stopinj, no nekak v tem stilu je povedal :D

Tako, da se bojim, da bom izvenštandarden :(

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pred 13 minutami, DAMI34 pravi:

ko sem gledal en test, je možak povedal, da so povprečno dosegali na testu naklone tja 47-48 stopinj

še bolj pogumni do 50-52, in en diujak 53 stopinj, no nekak v tem stilu je povedal :D

Tako, da se bojim, da bom izvenštandarden :(

DAMI34 ker sem videl, da si ravnokar objavil komentar o nagibih motorjev v ovinkih, bi te prosil, če mi malo opišeš vodljivost Z1000sx. Kako se obnaša skozi ovinke in kakšna je splošna stabilnost tega motorja. V nekaterih tujih testih sem namreč zasledil precej kritik obnašanja tega motocikla v ovinkih. Pišejo, da je precej trmast in noče sam "pasti" v ovinek, ter da močno sili navzven. Tega nisem bil vajen pri prejšnjem motorju, ki sem ga imel (ZX6R 636 04). Ker sam do sedaj še nisem imel priložnosti testirat svojega SX-a, tebe sprašujem kako je s to vodljivostjo v ovinkih, ker si pač naredil ogromno št. km. s tem motorjem in ga po mojem prepričanju poznaš do obisti. Zavedam se namreč, da SX ni SS motor in ne morem pričakovati takšne vodljivosti v ovinkih, kot mi jo je nudil bivši motor. Vendar sem vseeno malce zaskrbljen, glede na poročila testnih voznikov, ki so ta motor testirali. Res pa je, da pa so ga pa nekateri drugi testni vozniki zelo pohvalili. Zato je najbolje, da vprašam tebe, ki imaš veliko izkušenj s tem motorjem in iz prve roke izvem, kako je s to zadevo. 

Se ti že v naprej zahvaljujem za odgovor!

 

:topic:

Nekje sem prebral, da si iz "Wajdovšne". Tam imam kar nekaj prijateljev, ker sem šest let vozil kamion za Primorje, dokler ni končalo v stečaju. Morda se kdaj vidimo v "Wajdovšni", ko bom obiskal kakega izmed prijateljev. 

Lp.

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pred 11 minutami, truckdriver pravi:

DAMI34 ker sem videl, da si ravnokar objavil komentar o nagibih motorjev v ovinkih, bi te prosil, če mi malo opišeš vodljivost Z1000sx. Kako se obnaša skozi ovinke in kakšna je splošna stabilnost tega motorja. V nekaterih tujih testih sem namreč zasledil precej kritik obnašanja tega motocikla v ovinkih. Pišejo, da je precej trmast in noče sam "pasti" v ovinek, ter da močno sili navzven. Tega nisem bil vajen pri prejšnjem motorju, ki sem ga imel (ZX6R 636 04). Ker sam do sedaj še nisem imel priložnosti testirat svojega SX-a, tebe sprašujem kako je s to vodljivostjo v ovinkih, ker si pač naredil ogromno št. km. s tem motorjem in ga po mojem prepričanju poznaš do obisti. Zavedam se namreč, da SX ni SS motor in ne morem pričakovati takšne vodljivosti v ovinkih, kot mi jo je nudil bivši motor. Vendar sem vseeno malce zaskrbljen, glede na poročila testnih voznikov, ki so ta motor testirali. Res pa je, da pa so ga pa nekateri drugi testni vozniki zelo pohvalili. Zato je najbolje, da vprašam tebe, ki imaš veliko izkušenj s tem motorjem in iz prve roke izvem, kako je s to zadevo. 

Se ti že v naprej zahvaljujem za odgovor!

 

:topic:

Nekje sem prebral, da si iz "Wajdovšne". Tam imam kar nekaj prijateljev, ker sem šest let vozil kamion za Primorje, dokler ni končalo v stečaju. Morda se kdaj vidimo v "Wajdovšni", ko bom obiskal kakega izmed prijateljev. 

Lp.

Majo prav, je malce trmast, ne pa toliko, da bi se sekiral. V bistvu ga moraš povleči za sabo (zgrabi bika za roge) k temu še malo pripomore zadnja guma 190/50. Zato predlagam vožnjo v stilu da malce presedeš, predvsem pa zgornji del telesa in čelado porineš v smeri ovinka, moped pa za sabo (sicer je to najbolj normalen in optimalen način vožnje za vse motorje) Namreč taki ki sedijo kot s kolcem v riti pa jočejo, da moped ne pada v ovinke jih je kar veliko :D

Smerna stabilnost, stabilnost pri velikih hitrostih je pa odlična (ni zvijanja pri hitro odpeljanih ovinkih tudi pri hudo visokih brzinah), seveda mora biti temu primerno nastavljeno vzmetenje. Nos bo silil ven samo in zgolj ob slabi (trši, ST) prvi pnevmatiki in pretiravanju, namreč moped le ima 230kg.

Moj nasvet je itak tak: pozabi SS moped in to kar si z njim počel, začni uživat na sxu. Jaz sem mel SXe, pa superduka GT mam, pa z900, pa še kaj drugega, vsak moped je drugačen od drugega. Sicer oba moja sedanja sta bližje SS premetavanju in igrivosti, SX je nekoliko manj (pa sem ga vseeno pogrešal in zato spet kupil). Ima pa druge prednosti SX, ogromna moč in navor, ki te izstreli ven iz ovinka, celo v dvoje. Pa saj se ga boš navadil. Jaz se res ne bi sekiral na tvojem mestu.

Predvsem prav nastavi prednapetost (posed) zadaj za tvojo težo in samo še gas potem. Meni je vedno ustrezal SX tako da je bil zadaj malce bolj od defolta zategnjen, malo bolj na nos. Sicer pa tudi moja teža presega standardnih 70kg.

Itak, če prideš u Wajdušno pade kava. Zvrcni al pa napiši zs.

ps. tule je kar nekaj lastnikov ali bivših, ki poznajo moped do obisti in so z njim prevozili velik kmjev, zihr bo še kdo kaj zapisal.

 

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DAMI34, hvala za odgovor! Jasno, da ne pričakujem enakih voznih lastnosti, kot jih je imel bivši SS motor. Ker sem zadnja leta postal bolj umirjen voznik in si zaželel malce bolj umirjene vožnje in nekaj več udobja na motorju, sem nabavil SX-a. K tej odločitvi so mi veliko pomagala tudi mnenja forumašev tega foruma in pa seveda izkušnje z mojim bivšim Kawasakijem, ki sem ga lastil od leta 2007 in se z težkim srcem poslovil od njega, ker mi je vsa ta leta odlično služil in z njim nisem imel nikakršnih težav in nepotrebnih stroškov, razen rednega servisiranja in vsega, kar spada zraven. Za SX-a sem se pa odločil, ker mi je ta motor od nekdaj zelo všeč, pa tudi kvaliteta ni vprašljiva, glede na to, koliko km si z njim naredil ti in pa mladench, brez kakšnih večjih problemov. Prav gotovo pa gre zaupati človeku, kot si ti, ki čakaš že na tretjega SX-a, kar pomeni, da je motor res odličen, drugače človek nebi nabavil kat tri motorje istega tipa. 

Za nastavitve prednapetosti, te bom pa še kaj povprašal, kose bom z SX-om začel bolj pogosto voziti, torej v pomladanskem času. Sam tehtam namreč 90kg in bo verjetno potrebno kaj ponastavit. 

Pa še to, bral sem, da se motor veliko bolje obnaša, če zadaj natakneš gumo 190/55. Vsaj po mnenju nekaj tukajšnjih forumašev in pa tudi forumašev tujih forumov. 

Ko pridem v Wajdušno, ta zagotovo kontaktiram, da spijeva kakšno kofe. 👍

  

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DAMI34

jp poglej  v navodila, če se ne motim maš 40 klikov. Defolt je na 8 klikov (oziroma poglej v navodila), gladko dodaj 2 s prtljago/kufri-4. 

2 osebi +10 (odvisno od osebe še več :D)

Al pa pomeri in natančno nastavi po parametrih kot mora biti vzmetenje.

Jaz sem za 2 osebi tudi zaprl 1/8 do 1/4 povrat. Se pa nisem pretirano ubadal s teorijo, bolj s prakso, zato sem občasno tudi med vožnjo še za kak klik dodal. Važno da sem se počutil tako, da vzmetenje ne zabija niti odbija, da lepo kompenzira in da se ujema s prednjim koncem.

55 guma je za odtenek višja od 50, ma bolj oster lok v prerezu. S tem pridobiš boljšo krivuljo, pa malce višine, zato je bolje.

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ne ni zbrisano, debata o tehniki in ostalem kar se tiče vožnje komentiranju opic, ki visijo z motorja je tule:

https://motosvet.com/tabla/topic/39126-tehnika-vožnje-nagib-v-ovinkih-speljevanje-itd/

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Pravkar, Ris pravi:

Motor Jet v MB ga že ima. Sveže ispod čekiča😉

on je najbližji dksu :P

 

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Pravkar, Ris pravi:

In to pomen, da je tvoj tud na poti😉

Upam, moram mal preverit.

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@DAMI34 a še nimaš datuma, kdaj ga dobiš? Mene firbec matra za znort. Bom kuj prletu u dolino vetra, da ga vidm. Ker že izbiram naslednji motor in je ta v ožjem izboru...

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pred 2 minutami, skalar36 pravi:

@DAMI34 a še nimaš datuma, kdaj ga dobiš? Mene firbec matra za znort. Bom kuj prletu u dolino vetra, da ga vidm. Ker že izbiram naslednji motor in je ta v ožjem izboru...

Najbolje da priletiš preko Domžal, pa ga še pripeljes v dolino. :) danes preverim situacij

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Hja, lohk ti ga s kombijem peljem.

A misleš, da ti dajo popust če me okužiš, da ga še jest kupm :P

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Kugelschreiber
28 minutes ago, skalar36 said:

Ker že izbiram naslednji motor in je ta v ožjem izboru

 

On 5/14/2019 at 5:30 PM, skalar36 said:

Vem pa tud že, kaj bo naslednji motor za AT... BMW XR.

No rest for the wicked. :D

Vsa čast. Jez rabm sezono in zimo, de se prvadim. Šele drugo pomlad sm z motorjem res na TI. Respect, de lahko tako presedaš. 

 

 

 

Angleži so čudni u 3pm. 

 

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skalar36

Ma jest se motorja kr hitro pivadim. Hondo po 600km upam že kr povsod pelat. K temu verjetno pripomore moja služba, kjer je fizično delo in imam ogromno kondicije, potem pa še v prostem času precej športam... tako da...

Ja. SX, XR pa mogoče TRA 900 v ožjem izboru za naslednji motor.

Je pa res, da sm bolan na motorje, obseden. Priznam. Ne morem brez.

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Kamot ti ga peljem s kombijem. Poklič pa se zmenva. 031891557

PS: če boš kje po pot vn iz kombija padu... jebi ga se zgodi :naughty:

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pred eno uro, skalar36 pravi:

Kamot ti ga peljem s kombijem. Poklič pa se zmenva. 031891557

PS: če boš kje po pot vn iz kombija padu... jebi ga se zgodi :naughty:

mal sm te šalil (cifro pa sem prepisal :P), ga bom verjetno jaz naložil na kombi, ko ga sestavijo, upam da pred poletjem :(

 

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