Dakar 2004

[MOTOVILC]

BRAVO Miran :D :D :D :yea2:

Popravljeno Januar 8, 2004. Popravil MOTOVILC

[MOTOVILC]

miran, prtegn un gas pa naj se ti adrenalinska tema nad oči spusti in maš da poletiš kot raketa, vsi navdušenci te 100% podpiramo :notworthy:

Dolga je še dolga :D kr lepo počasi! :yea2:

[Noise]

Ok, zdaj pa zares... očitno tudi današnja etapa ne bo enostavna... Najboljša novica je, kot je napisal že Motovilc, da Stanovnik napada, kot je obljubil včeraj !!!!! Miran, da zdržiš do cilja!!!! Malo višje so rezultati po CP1, spodaj pa trenutni rezultati po CP2.

Despres se je med 29. in 40. kilometrom izgubil (in izgubil nekaj manj kot uro in pol!!!), Sainct je imel hude težave v pesku (morda zaradi poškodovane roke) in ga je iz objema puščave rešil kolega Brucy; Roma je zadevo izkoristil in odpičil naprej, na CP1 so vseeno prišli skupaj. Ni znano kaj se dogaja z Meonijem, ki je na CP1 prišel z več kot polurno zamudo, morda se mu je zgodilo tako kot Vatanenu in Shinozuki, ki sta pred CP1 izgubila ogromno časa z iskanjem ustrezne poti. Schlesser je imel ponovno predrto gumo, tokrat slabih 500 metrov pred CP1...

Na CP2 sta prišla Roma in Sainct skupaj, Meoni je ravno tako v cilj pripeljal skupaj z Alfijem Coxom in je trenutno šesti (za tri minute glede na CP1 se je približal Romi), Stanovnik je še vedno odličen, štirinajsti, le deset minut za Meonijem a že dobrih 40 minut za Romo... (Dave the Wave, tvojo objavo sem izbrisal, ker si skopiral napačne rezultate :afro1: )

Trenutni rezultati na CP2:

1 004 - ROMA 04:01:08

2 001 - SAINCT 04:09:18

3 009 - BRUCY 04:11:04

4 019 - ESTEVE PUJOL 04:28:57

5 032 - PEREZ 04:33:28

6 003 - MEONI 04:33:42

7 020 - MARCHINI 04:34:35

8 025 - HARDEN 04:37:14

9 028 - CROQUELOIS 04:37:21

10 023 - CZACHOR 04:39:01

11 171 - COAKER 04:40:24

12 006 - LUNDMARK 04:40:43

13 049 - CHEVALLIER 04:41:38

14 030 - STANOVNIK 04:43:28

15 017 - KRAUSE 04:43:38

16 029 - VERHOEF 04:44:03

17 011 - COMA 04:45:24

18 022 - FLICK 04:47:18

19 015 - ULLEVALSETER 04:51:28

20 005 - DE AZEVEDO 04:52:52

(čakamo Stanovnika yeaaahhh :yea2: )

Kar se tiče SLO avtomobilistov pa mi ni najbolj jasno kaj se je zgodilo, upam, da bo Peter Kavčič čimprej kaj več sporočil... Namreč, na rezultatih včerajšnje etape sta 111. od 114. avtomobilov z nekim hudim časom in 17 urnim časovnim pribitkom, danes pa sta menda tudi štartala!!! :) Dobro, vsaj v vuk**eb*ni nista ostala...

[Noise]

Ja glede povprečne hitrosti se tud jst čudim... :blink:

čist na pamet govorim...bla je etapa okol 300+km dolga in so jo prevozil motoristi v 3h pa še mal...to se prav je povprečna 100km/h(15+-)...85 povprečne hitrosti čez PUŠČAVO je pa tud več kot preveč :wacko:  :wacko:  :wacko:

Yamaha, poglej si še tole temo iz egipčanskega rallyja, kjer so bile odprte etape...(Rallye des Pharaons)

Citiram iz tiste teme...

As the Italians would say: "A la manetta" - full gas!! again today. The riders burnt down the 386 km special stage in less than 3 hours. A stage for the V-twin LC8, high speed of Nani Roma today 199 km/h, average speed of the whole stage 147 km/h. Who of you dares to go that fast on a highway???

PS: Yamaha, tudi tvojo objavo z rezultati iz CP02 sem izbrisal, ker je vsebovala napačne rezultate!!! (ne smete gledati po PRIHODIH ampak po ČASU!!!)

[<=YaMaHa=>]

Ja no čist divje 150km/h met povprečno hitrost čez puščavo :OK:

GO MIRAN GO :grupni:

P.S.:

Ja OK..... ;)

[bLuZoNdEr]

Trenutno zgleda takole (zal ne prevec vzpodbudno - upam da se motim) :

Départ CP01 CP02 Arrivée

Stanovnik 08:55:00 11:29:34 13:38:28 ?

ROMA 08:38:00 10:47:30 12:39:08 14:16:07

...se pravi da je Miran startal 17 minut za trenutno vodilnim v skupnem, na CP1 prisel 43 minut za njim, na CP2 je zaostajal skoraj 1 uro, na cilj ga pa se ni kljub temu da je Roma tja prispel ze pred skoraj 2 urama???

[5ER]

zaenkrat še ni panike, morš računat na časovno razliko - 1ura

[dave the wave]

Današnja preizkušnja ATAR-TIDJIKJA izgleda takole:

Ziel

1 004 - ROMA 05:38:07

2 009 - BRUCY 05:44:09

3 001 - SAINCT 05:46:05

4 003 - MEONI 06:03:57

5 025 - HARDEN 06:09:39

6 006 - LUNDMARK 06:14:34

7 011 - COMA 06:15:38

8 023 - CZACHOR 06:16:49

9 022 - FLICK 06:17:48

10 020 - MARCHINI 06:17:57

11 032 - PEREZ 06:18:54

12 028 - CROQUELOIS 06:19:10

13 030 - STANOVNIK 06:21:17

14 049 - CHEVALLIER 06:21:49

15 015 - ULLEVALSETER 06:22:02

16 171 - COAKER 06:24:42

17 010 - COX 06:27:28

Bravo Miran :yea2:

[dave the wave]

Tako pa je Miran predstavljen na dakar.com, trenutno je na odličnem 16 mestu :OK:

Popravljeno Januar 8, 2004. Popravil dave the wave

[lukec]

POCAS SE DALEC PRIDE :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: MIRAN SVAKA TI CAST

[bLuZoNdEr]

kot kaze je bil moj preplah zamanj..............hvala ku..., miran je skocil na skupno 17 mesto

DEJMO MIRAN SE TKO NAPREJ!!!!! :yea2: :OK:

[Noise]

Peter Kavčič - stanovnik.com Press Release & Noise Data komentarji :)

26. Dakar 2004

8.1.2004, 8. etapa Atar – Tidjikja (HP 355 km, skupaj 389 km, 1.535 km za asistenco)

Na Dakarju polno preobratov, Stanovnik odličen, Krajnc/Prislan še v igri

Povsem nova etapa od Atarja do Tidjikje v osrčju Mavretanije, je postregla s številnimi preobrati in odstopi. Miran Stanovnik je kljub tehničnim težavam osvojil 14. mesto in je skupno pridobil še štiri mesta. Brane Krajnc in Barbara Prislan, sta po 26 urah prispela v Atar in nadaljujeta z dirko, vsekakor odličen doežek, upoštevajoč, da so imeli težave prav vsi.

Med motoristi se je mladi Cyril Despres šele dobro razveselil prvega mesta v skupnem seštevku, ko je že moral predati vodstvo Špancu Juanu Romi, ki je bil na osmi etapi najhitrejši. Sainct se je namreč kmalu po štartu popolnoma izgubil in je sedaj skupno na sedmem mestu. Tudi tako izkušeni motoristi kot je Meoni so imeli svoj del navigacijskih napak, saj je Italijan osvojil šele peto mesto. No, mnogo bolj pa je šlo našemu puščavskemu lisjaku, ki je danes zasedel 14. mesto in je skupno šestnajsti. »Tako težke etape še nisem vozil, priznam, da sem tokrat pomislil, da ne bom zmogel. Peščeni vihar je onemogočal vidljivost, vroč veter je povzročal dehidracijo, toliko skal, peska, sipin, kamelje trave na enem kupu še nisem videl. Za povrh pa je bilo v potni knjigi še polno napak, zaradi katerih so se mnogi popolnoma izgubili. Proti koncu mi je še odpovedal akumulator, tako da sem moral počakati na pomoč (kakšnih 8 minut), da sem s kabli lahko zagnal motor. Sedaj moram v taboru najti nov akumulator, kar pa ni najlažje, saj danes asistenčnih tovornjakov ne bo »domov«, še dodaja Miran, ki se je odličnega rezultata zelo razveselil.

Miranu bo tudi vesel vašega sporočila, ki ga lahko pošljete takole: www.dakar.com/messages/ nato pa pod login vtipkate messdakar in pod password še ASOdakar200430.

Med avtomobilisti je po težavah Masuoke (menjalnik, izgubil je uro in pol) skupno v vodstvu Peterhansel (Mitsubishi), sledi pa mu DeMevius (BMW). McRae čaka na asistenco, ki bi mu naj usposobila 4WD

Slovenca Branko Krajnc in Barbara Prislan sta se včeraj na 7 etapi pogumno borila s puščavo in tehničnimi težavami (odpadlo kolo, odpoved servo sistema). »Po 26 urah v avtomobilu sva srečna, da nama je ob sedmi uri zjutraj uspelo priti do cilja, tako da sva še v dirki. Za nameček nama je 10 kilometrov pred koncem sipin odpovedal štirikolesni pogon, ki se je po treh urah izkopavanja in polžjega pomikanja naprej »čudežno« popravil« je povedala Barbara, ki pravzaprav ni spala že skoraj dva dni. Avto so nato v taboru popravili, nakar sta čez tri ure nadaljevala z dirko. Držimo pesti!

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Rezultati - moto - 8. etapa

1 004 ROMA KTM 5h 38' 07" 00' 00"

2 009 BRUCY KTM 5h 44' 09" 06' 02"

3 001 SAINCT KTM 5h 46' 05" 07' 58"

4 019 ESTEVE PUJOL KTM 6h 02' 58" 24' 51"

5 003 MEONI KTM 6h 03' 57" 25' 50"

6 025 HARDEN KTM 6h 09' 39" 31' 32"

7 006 LUNDMARK KTM 6h 14' 34" 36' 27"

8 011 COMA KTM 6h 15' 38" 37' 31"

9 023 CZACHOR KTM 6h 16' 49" 38' 42"

10 022 FLICK KTM 6h 17' 48" 39' 41"

11 020 MARCHINI KTM 6h 17' 57" 39' 50"

12 032 PEREZ KTM 6h 18' 54" 40' 47"

13 028 CROQUELOIS KTM 6h 19' 10" 41' 03"

14 030 STANOVNIK KTM 6h 21' 17" 43' 10"

15 049 CHEVALLIER KTM 6h 21' 49" 43' 42"

Rezultati - moto - po 8. etapi

1 004 ROMA KTM 21h 04' 40" 00' 00"

2 001 SAINCT KTM 21h 12' 56" 08' 16"

3 009 BRUCY KTM 21h 19' 05" 14' 25"

4 010 COX KTM 21h 55' 59" 51' 19"

5 015 ULLEVALSETER KTM 22h 05' 46" 1h 01' 06"

6 006 LUNDMARK KTM 22h 08' 00" 1h 03' 20"

7 002 DESPRES KTM 22h 15' 56" 1h 11' 16"

8 023 CZACHOR KTM 22h 50' 54" 1h 46' 14"

9 025 HARDEN KTM 22h 56' 07" 1h 51' 27"

10 022 FLICK KTM 22h 56' 23" 1h 51' 43"

11 005 DE AZEVEDO KTM 23h 07' 25" 2h 02' 45"

12 008 DE GAVARDO KTM 23h 13' 04" 2h 08' 24"

13 003 MEONI KTM 23h 13' 45" 2h 09' 05"

14 011 COMA KTM 23h 17' 54" 2h 13' 14"

15 012 FRETIGNE YAMAHA 23h 23' 03" 2h 18' 23"

16 171 COAKER KTM 23h 28' 25" 2h 23' 45"

17 030 STANOVNIK KTM 23h 50' 46" 2h 46' 06"

Rezultati - avtomobili - 8. etapa

1 203 PETERHANSEL / COTTRET MITSUBISHI 5h 01' 25" 00' 00"

2 204 KLEINSCHMIDT / PONS VOLKSWAGEN 5h 30' 20" 28' 55"

3 212 DE MEVIUS / GUEHENNEC BMW 5h 33' 46" 32' 21"

4 200 SCHLESSER / LURQUIN SCHLES-FORD 5h 54' 45" 53' 20"

5 207 ALPHAND / MAGNE BMW 5h 56' 20" 54' 55"

...

11 201 MASUOKA / PICARD MITSUBISHI 6h 35' 39" 1h 34' 14"

v tem trenutku skupno le 25 avtomobilov v cilju!

Rezultati - avtomobili - po 8. etapi

1 203 PETERHANSEL / COTTRET MITSUBISHI 18h 54' 05" 00' 00" 05' 00"

2 212 DE MEVIUS / GUEHENNEC BMW 19h 58' 43" 1h 04' 38" 05' 00"

3 201 MASUOKA / PICARD MITSUBISHI 20h 16' 37" 1h 22' 32"

4 200 SCHLESSER / LURQUIN SCHLES-FORD 20h 23' 47" 1h 29' 42"

5 207 ALPHAND / MAGNE BMW 21h 44' 12" 2h 50' 07"

6 236 HOUSIEAUX / FAGOT MITSUBISHI 22h 14' 08" 3h 20' 03"

7 211 MAYER / SCHULZ MITSUBISHI 22h 14' 22" 3h 20' 17"

8 224 SABY / STEVENSON VOLKSWAGEN 22h 51' 33" 3h 57' 28"

9 225 MAGNALDI / LEGAL HONDA 22h 52' 07" 3h 58' 02"

10 227 KOLBERG / LOURIVAL MITSUBISHI 23h 12' 30" 4h 18' 25"

[Noise]

Jutri je na vrsti deveta etapa od Tidjikje do Neme (739 km), ki bo hkrati tudi ena najtežjih etap, zagotovo pa je v isti dolžini tudi najdaljša letošnja hitrostna preizkušnja. »Kot, da še ni dovolj težko«, si mislijo tisti, ki so še preživeli."

Vir: stanovnik.com

A legendary stage! This part of the course has witnessed some of the race’s most historic moments. It is also the longest and the hardest stage in the 2004 race. After a fast start through soft sand until Tichit, things get tougher as we reach the Well of Aratoue, the Rocher des Eléphants and the Enji pass where nearly all of the competitors were brought to a halt by a sandstorm 1985. But the magnificent landscapes make it easier to forget the difficulties of certain sections.

[Noise]

Miranu bo tudi vesel vašega sporočila, ki ga lahko pošljete takole: www.dakar.com/messages/ nato pa pod login vtipkate messdakar in pod password še ASOdakar200430.

Jaz sem mu že poslal, dejte ga podpret tudi vi!!

[gidl]

Jaz sem mu že poslal, dejte ga podpret tudi vi!!

Itak...

:OK:

Kaj pa s Kranjcem dogaja....Štartu je dons, sam pol pa nobenga CP ni prevozu....a to mogoče smrdi na odstop.... :( :( :(

[enduraš]

jz sm tud poslal... to je najmanj kar lohk naredim

[Mačica]

Jaz sem mu že poslal, dejte ga podpret tudi vi!!

Jssssssssssssst tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut

[Noise]

KTM PRESS RELEASE

Dakar 2004: 8th stage Atar – Tidjikja

08.01.2004

New-age treachery mixes up the field of competitors

GPS means navigating with the help of dozens of satellites in space. GPS points help the drivers to orientate and find their way through the desert. Some experts claim that GPS is a good means for the race. However, it does not substitute for looking into the road book or even at the landscape. That is what today’s stage was vehemently trying to tells us.

"Fucking day," exclaims Alfie Cox in the paddocks. He was mad about himself. "I followed Fabrizio and that turned out to be a huge mistake." Because Meoni rode in a wrong direction, just as Cyril Despres and several of the other riders. The crucial point was the first GPS point. It was given to the competitors by the officials of the rally. It was meant to help orientating and was about 120 kilometers behind the start. The riders crossed a Wadi after 40 km. The ones riding directly towards the GPS point missed the right exit to leave the dryed-up river bed. The ones looking into their road books and taking in their surroundings had it easier to find the right way. Surly, A.S.O. must allow to be questioned about such a misleading GPS point. But the stage is definitely over.

Today’s winner Nani Roma happily explained tonight, "It was good that I checked into my road book. I looked around and calmly tried to navigate." For the longest time, he could take advantage of Richard Sainct’s knowledge. Roma overtook him shortly beyond the start. With the Frenchman and his fellow countryman Jean Brucy they rode on together. Richard Sainct, too, had his problems today, "Navigation was extremely difficult. I turned around twice on a track because I wasn’t sure that I had found the right route." A sandstorm made orientation even more difficult. "I constantly had dust in my eyes," tells Sainct. His summary about the day: "The stage was shorter than yesterday, but it was definitely tougher, too. But I did okay. If navigating stays at this level I assume I have a good chance in the race."

Nani Roma claims the leadership in the overalls again. He leads ahead of Sainct just before Jean Brucy, who was able to clinch a 2nd place today. Modestly he answers, "It was not that difficult for me today. I just followed Richard."

Dakar-beginner Scott Harden rode a remarkable race today. Trusting his good old compass helped him to rank among the top riders. "I arrived in 6th position and was simply surprised about such a good placement. When I wasn’t sure about the way I took out my compass and road book. I trusted them more than my GPS. That’s what helped me to get through fine."

The last two stages thoroughly mixed up the field of riders twice. Tomorrow this could happen for a third time. Stage 9, the second part of a marathon-stage, is the second longest special in this years Dakar rally. It is 739 km long. The A.S.O. also claims it to be the toughest stage. What do the riders await? The legendary route drives past Tichit, the famous elephant rock. It also crosses the Enji-pass which had stopped almost all competitors due to a sandstorm in 1985. We will wait in suspense what this special offers the riders and their fans at home tomorrow.

[garfield]

Jst sm miranu poslal sporočil :OK: in že držim pesti za naslednj etapo

Dejmoooooo Miran!!! :yea2: :yea2:

[Noise]

Krajnc je prispel kot 70. skozi CP1... Do cilja je še kar nekaj debelih ur (Peterhansel je potreboval 3, Mayer 4.5, Vatanen 5...)in zna se zgoditi, da bo danes v najboljšem primeru ponovno zelo malo spanca... pred jutrišnjo, najtežjo etapo...

70 297 - KRAJNC 04:51:45

Sicer pa še ena fotka Meonija, ki jo pošilja Peter Kavčič...

[Noise]

Cyril Despres (KTM n°2), first overall before the start, lost his leadership. "It was the worst day of my life. I had problems with my glasses so I decided to stop but fell at a very slow pace. Nothing serious except that with my knee I pulled the GPS connexion. I couldn't reconnect it, so I got lost. Each time I saw a KTM rider I would follow him, but each time we got lost again. That lasted 50kms. Because of that, I ran out of fuel, 1.2km from refuelling. Luckily, someone helped me reconnect the GPS and gave me fuel"

The overall lead now belongs to "Nani" Roma with a 8min16 advantage on Sainct, and 14min25 on Brucy. "I'm delighted to take the lead in the overall, but everyone knows that it doesn't mean anything", admitted the Catalan. "Every leader has a problem the following day ! It happened to Esteve yesterday, now to Despres.!"

Jean-Louis Schlesser (Schlesser Ford n°200) felt slightly frustrated. "Anyhow, on this rally, only three drivers know how to navigate : Jutta, Masuoka and Peter. All the others got lost, including myself and it costs us 30min".

Peterhansel is comfortably in the lead with over an hour on De Mevius an 1h22 on Masuoka who eventually finished the stage in 7th spot at 1h34min14. "It's over. I can't fight for victory. It's now impossible to catch Peterhansel. I'll fight for second place."

V tem trenutku Krajnca še ni na CP2. Je pa zato na Eurosportu reportaža...

[Noise]

Nooorooooo... So pisali, da je bila huda etapa danes, samo na posnetkih je bila pa res groza. Tako mehkega peska pa še ne... roma se je vkopaval kot za šalo na posnetkih :wacko: :wacko:

Miran, :notworthy: ...

Krajnc/Prislan še nista na CP2... veliko sreče, potrebovala jo bosta.

Hja, danes tudi ni asistence, tako, da bo Miran morda težko našel kakšen rezerven akumulator... :o

V glavnem, kapo dol.

[Thundercat]

miran se vedno bolj približuje najvišjim mestom...upam da ga ne preseneti okvara kaj šele poškodba.....

Miran... :OK: :OK:

[<=YaMaHa=>]

KAPO DOL VSEM, KI SO IN KI BODO PRIŠLI DANES NA CILJ!!! :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Ko sem že mislil da je najtežja etapa za njimi se je pojavila še ena...jutri še ena :doze:

Res mojster vsak ki si sploh upa pomislit jit na Dakar!

Po današnji reporaži na Evrosportu samo svaka čast vsakmu tm!!!

:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

[batzajla]

hehe zakon,res mu privoščim da mu gre.. :yea2: :yea2: :yea2:

tud poslal sporočilo... :)

samo tko naprej!!! :OK: :notworthy: :OK: :notworthy: