Dakar 2004

[lightning]

Ja sam tko naprej ja...naj mu Bog da še veliko športne sreče in uspeh ne more izostati,ker vse ostalo že ima!! :notworthy: :notworthy: :yea2: :yea2: :OK: Poslano tudi sporočilce :OK:

[Noise]

Krajnc/Prislan še nista na CP2, prvi motorist na najdaljši in najtežji etapi pa štarta čez 10 minut...

Stage 9 - 9 January 2004 - TIDJIKJA > NEMA

Liaison 3 km Special 736 km Total 739 km

Off we go for an already legendary stage. The ones used to the rally will know this track by heart but bad surprises could prove to be lethal. Especially because this year the special will be very long (736km) and full of traps added to the fact that there will be less GPS points than in the past.

After a fast start through soft sand until Tichit, things get tougher as we reach the Well of Aratoue, the Rocher des Eléphants and the Enji pass where nearly all of the competitors were brought to a halt by a sandstorm 1985.

Despite all this, the competitors will certainly be keeping an eye out to watch the “Elephant rock” or the Enji passage. A vision that will give the newcomers the desire to come back for the next edition. The magnificent landscapes make it easier to forget the difficulties of certain sections.

After hours of driving and riding, fast tracks to head up to the Dhar, the competitors will finally get to Nema, a traditional town, capital of Hodh ech-Chergui, in the middle of the desert, surrounded by red soil and tiger bushes.

[pero]

Joj kok je to lepo slišat!!! :D :P :)

Še tako naprej!

Ciao,by Pero

Leta smole so minila čas je za zmaggggooooooo!!! O:-) :notworthy: :notworthy: :OK:

[Lupek]

Kaj naj rečem.. sam še tako naprej pa bo :OK: Sporočilo sn mu pa tudi jaz že polslal.

[Noise]

Ne vem kaj se dogaja, a nikogar še ni niti na CP1... :o Aja, no, sta pa Krajnc/Prislan štartala pred dobre pol ure na današnjo etapo...

[MOTOVILC]

Ne vem kaj se dogaja, a nikogar še ni niti na CP1... :o

PETEK 9.1.2004

12:36 LEADING BIKES AT CP1

The leading bikes went through CP1 at km 236. Leading the pack was Nani Roma (KTM n°4) alongside Sainct (KTM n°1), Meoni (KTM n°3), Esteve (KTM n°19) and Brucy (KTM n°9). That means that Sainct has gained 4min on Roma, after leaving in 3rd spot this morning. Best time so far for Meoni.

[gidl]

Pomoje DRAMA...

me zanima kaj bodo slike na EvroSportu pokazale...

Sigurn da na vsaki sipini ena stoji...

[bLuZoNdEr]

Dajmo Miran, GASSSSS :yea2: :yea2:

zakaj na dakar.com ni podatkov o uvrstitvah po posameznih kategorijah :(

[bladzo]

Jasno, tudi Branetu in Barbari moramo poslati kakšno sporočilce (na isti način kot Miranu).

Jst sm že vsem.

Ali ste vedeli, da ima Brane dva vozila v asistenci (terenec G 270CDI, Mercedesov tovrnjak 1844 jasno 4×4 s tremi mehaniki) , kar je bila vsekakor dobra odločitev, saj so bili ključnega pomena pri okvarah.

[Noise]

Almost half of the competitors have now quit the Dakar. Indeed, 210 were authorised to start this morning's special (400 on the start in Clermont) : 92 bike, 75 cars and 43 trucks.

14:54 DESPRES FASTEST AT CP2

Late starter in 24th spot, Cyril Despres (KTM n°2) has the best time at CP2 (km439). Second so far is Cox (KTM n°10) at 1min57. Meoni (KTM n°3) is at 6min38 followed by Sainct (KTM n°1) at 22min58 and Roma (KTM n°4) at 24min27.

[Noise]

Shit, šele zdaj sem videl, da sem Motovilčevo objavo iz CP1 izbrisal, pozabil pa prilepiti pravilne rezultate... Sorry Motovilc, ni bilo namenoma... :wacko: :grrr

PS: Še enkrat, pazite da gledate rezultate kjer je ČAS dirkanja in ne OB KATERI URI JE KDO PRIŠEL NA CP/V CILJ

Tukaj so... --- CP1

1 010 - COX 02:51:50

2 002 - DESPRES 02:52:03

3 003 - MEONI 02:59:26

4 006 - LUNDMARK 03:00:07

5 011 - COMA 03:00:56

6 015 - ULLEVALSETER 03:01:05

7 019 - ESTEVE PUJOL 03:01:31

8 008 - DE GAVARDO 03:03:18

9 001 - SAINCT 03:03:24

10 009 - BRUCY 03:05:34

11 004 - ROMA 03:07:21

12 012 - FRETIGNE 03:08:36

...

27 030 - STANOVNIK 03:27:29

[Noise]

Evo, še CP2 -- Miran trenutno 26. ...

CP02

1 002 - DESPRES 05:48:35

2 010 - COX 05:50:34

3 015 - ULLEVALSETER 06:05:03

4 003 - MEONI 06:05:13

5 011 - COMA 06:05:28

6 006 - LUNDMARK 06:07:20

7 001 - SAINCT 06:09:33

8 019 - ESTEVE PUJOL 06:12:03

9 004 - ROMA 06:13:02

10 009 - BRUCY 06:17:26

11 008 - DE GAVARDO 06:20:13

12 016 - ROESELER 06:27:27

13 022 - FLICK 06:30:10

14 012 - FRETIGNE 06:32:03

15 023 - CZACHOR 06:32:05

...

26 030 - STANOVNIK 07:07:53

Koliko še manjka se vidi tudi spodaj na mapi...

[Noise]

Drugače pa še malo dogajanja...

14:26 HARDEN AND VERHOEF QUIT

US rider Scot Harden (KTM n°25) broke a leg at CP1. He was forced to withdraw from the race. Erik Verhoef (KTM n°29) was also forced to quit after falling at k 125.

16:35 MOTO CP3: Seeing that Despres began the stage in 24th position, 25 minutes after yesterday's winner Roma, the riders are probably riding together.

16:30 MOTO CP3: Frenchman Cyril Despres has maintained his momentum to the third checkpoint (488 km) and is now 2min 29secs ahead of South African Alfie Cox, with Fabrizio Meoni third (16'38"), Lundmark fourth (18'31"), Sainct fifth (20'39") and overall leader Roma sixth (24'21").

16:06 VATANEN AND McRAE in TROUBLE

At km 368, two official Nissan cars were stopped with mechanical problems. Ari Vatanen (Nissan n°205) has clutch worries and McRae (Nissan n°202) has gearbox problems. Both were able to carry on but at a very slow pace.

16:14 AUTO CP2: Hiroshi Masuoka is now through, 9min 27secs quicker than Peterhansel with De Mevius currently third, 21min 10sec down on the Japanese ace.

[Noise]

Še iz eurusporta komentar včerajšnje etape oz. zgodba Colina McRae-ja...

McRae: 'A terrible day'

Britain's Colin McRae suffered a nightmare on stage 8 of the Dakar on Thursday when a transmission problem left him with only front wheel drive, making it impossible to overcome the soft dunes. The Scot was later towed to the bivouac by team-mate Giniel De Villiers in what was great team work.

But all in all, it was a terrible day for the Nissan team with all three pick ups experiencing problems, but thanks to their great team work, all three managed to get to the end of Thursday's stage. Ari Vatanen lost precious time looking for the way, Giniel De Villiers had electrical problems and ran out of fuel and McRae fell victim to a transmission problem.

"Terrible, it was a terrible day," McRae began. "We had a broken transmission and we found ourselves down to two-wheel drive. As you can imagine, it was no picnic out there. We had to wait for Giniel, who towed us. The navigation was difficult and we had to look for our bearings for quite some time.

"I am happy that the three cars are here this evening, and I would really like to thank Giniel for his help," he added. "We showed real team-work today. Now, we have to do some work on the car, because the assistance truck will not be there for quite a while."

Giniel de Villiers set off at an excellent pace, but saw his progress come to a halt 30 kilometres from the start: "We had just started to attack the special stage when the engine suddenly stopped," he said. "We soon understood that there was an electrical problem. Further on, we did a bit of &lsquogardening', as did many others, because one of the instructions in the road-book was not very clear. Then we just ran out of fuel &hellip

"A Few minutes later, Ari arrived," he added. "We took a bit of fuel from Colin's car and a bit from Ari's, and managed to get to the finish line. The three cars are at the bivouac, and that is the main thing. Apart from this electrical problem, the car went incredibly well, but the stage was very long, and particularly difficult."

Ari Vatanen and Juha Repo also had some adventures today. Still with some of his habitual good humour, Ari told the tale of his day: "Today, there was everything you can expect from the Dakar," he said. We got lost; we got stuck in the sand. I must say that Juha is very good at digging! Then we had a puncture, and the jack did not want to help us to change the wheel. Finally, we helped Colin and Giniel, who had run out of fuel. Real problems, a real Dakar."

[<=YaMaHa=>]

Poslano sporočilce Miranu :OK: ...naši avtomobilski posadki pa še bomo!

By the way...kok dni nazaj sta Krajnc/Prislan nazadne spala :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

Popravljeno Januar 9, 2004. Popravil <=YaMaHa=>

[Noise]

By the way...kok dni nazaj sta Krajnc/Prislan nazadne spala :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

Enkrat v Evropi, ali pa kakšen mesec nazaj doma... :o

[Ata Slon]

...zanimiv članek o Davidu Casteuju, CAGIVA Elefant N.41, ki je pomagal Meoniju na sedmi etapi, ko je ta ostal brez zadnjega bib mousseja... :notworthy: :notworthy:

David Casteu, 29 year old privateer, 30th overall, stopped to help Fabrizio

Meoni yesterday, on stage 7. Meoni had been waiting 1h15 for someone to

give him a tyre tube at km 580.

Casteau: "As a biker, I can't imagine not stopping. I hate the idea that

many didn't. I saw him far ahead and at first I thought he had fell, then I

saw pieces of bib mousse and immediately understood. Meoni told me to carry

on and not lose time. But I couldn't do that. He was devastated. In 5

minutes and with the help of Cyril Raynal who also stopped, the problem was

solved. Too bad I didn't get there earlier".

For many on the Dakar, Meoni is more than just a top rider. "I would have

done it for any other biker but Fabrizio is really a master, my hero. He

started as a privateer, like me. He has a bike shop, like me. But most of

all, he is very human. He's the only one that comes to see the privateers

after a stage and talks to us. We never see the others".

This state of mind is one of the reasons that push Casteu to ride the Dakar.

"When I go to the Morocco or Tunisia rallies, it's to win it (winner in

Tunisia in 2003). Here it's for the adventure". This year he even bought a

special bike for the Dakar. "First of all it's a Cagiva because I didn't

want to have a KTM like the others. But most of all, it's the bike that

belonged to Edi Orioli when he won the 95 rally. I payed 30 000 francs for

it and then added 20 000 to restore things. It's a 900cc that is perfect for

the race because it's solid. When you have no assistance it helps".

[Leteči]

Stages 10 & 11 cancelled

The Dakar Rally has once again fallen foul to security worries after is was confirmed on Friday that Stages 10 and 11, which takes the competitors through Mali, were forced to be cancelled. The competitors will now cut across to Bamako tomorrow and head to Bobo-Dioulasso on Sunday for the rest day on Monday.

[jax]

Stages 10 & 11 cancelled

The Dakar Rally has once again fallen foul to security worries after is was confirmed on Friday that Stages 10 and 11, which takes the competitors through Mali, were forced to be cancelled. The competitors will now cut across to Bamako tomorrow and head to Bobo-Dioulasso on Sunday for the rest day on Monday.

Tud v 24ih urah so govoril neki da nej bi bila ena etapa ukinjena :?

[Noise]

Res je ja, dve etapi sta ukinjeni in transfer do BobaDiouluasa je v naslednji dveh dneh. Menda hudo grozijo s terorističnim napadom, zato se je A.S.O. odločil, da ne tvega. Motoristi gredo z avionom --- se pravi, da bo sedaj kar TRI DNI POČITKA (vključno z dnevom počitka v B-D)!!!

Najbolje pri vsem skupaj danes pa je, da je Stanovnik ravnokar prišel v CILJ -- na odličnem dvajsetem mestu!!!!

1 002 DESPRES KTM 9h 34' 33"

2 010 COX KTM 9h 37' 57" 03' 24"

3 001 SAINCT KTM 9h 56' 12" 21' 39"

4 019 ESTEVE PUJOL KTM 9h 57' 57" 23' 24"

5 015 ULLEVALSETER KTM 9h 58' 09" 23' 36"

6 006 LUNDMARK KTM 9h 58' 40" 24' 07"

7 004 ROMA KTM 10h 00' 55" 26' 22"

8 011 COMA KTM 10h 05' 21" 30' 48"

9 008 DE GAVARDO KTM 10h 14' 58" 40' 25"

10 022 FLICK KTM 10h 27' 32" 52' 59"

11 003 MEONI KTM 10h 34' 26" 59' 53"

12 016 ROESELER KTM 10h 35' 24" 1h 00' 51"

13 012 FRETIGNE YAMAHA 10h 39' 22" 1h 04' 49"

14 045 GRAZIANI KTM 10h 40' 30" 1h 05' 57"

15 023 CZACHOR KTM 10h 43' 54" 1h 09' 21"

16 024 CHARBONNEL KTM 10h 48' 39" 1h 14' 06"

17 020 MARCHINI KTM 10h 54' 43" 1h 20' 10"

18 028 CROQUELOIS KTM 11h 31' 17" 1h 56' 44"

19 032 PEREZ KTM 11h 34' 23" 1h 59' 50"

20 030 STANOVNIK KTM 11h 38' 11" 2h 03' 38"

Bravo Miran, malo nas je že skrbelo!!!!!

/// ne pozabite... Miranu bo tudi vesel vašega sporočila, ki ga lahko pošljete takole: www.dakar.com/messages/ nato pa pod User Name vtipkate messdakar in pod Password še ASOdakar200430. ///

Skupno je na odličnem 16. mestu!!!

1 004 ROMA KTM 31h 05' 35" 00' 00"

2 001 SAINCT KTM 31h 09' 08" 03' 33"

3 010 COX KTM 31h 33' 56" 28' 21"

4 002 DESPRES KTM 31h 50' 29" 44' 54"

5 015 ULLEVALSETER KTM 32h 03' 55" 58' 20"

6 006 LUNDMARK KTM 32h 06' 40" 1h 01' 05"

7 011 COMA KTM 33h 23' 15" 2h 17' 40"

8 022 FLICK KTM 33h 23' 55" 2h 18' 20"

9 008 DE GAVARDO KTM 33h 28' 02" 2h 22' 27"

10 023 CZACHOR KTM 33h 34' 48" 2h 29' 13"

11 003 MEONI KTM 33h 48' 11" 2h 42' 36"

12 012 FRETIGNE YAMAHA 34h 02' 25" 2h 56' 50"

13 020 MARCHINI KTM 34h 54' 18" 3h 48' 43"

14 045 GRAZIANI KTM 34h 54' 36" 3h 49' 01"

15 016 ROESELER KTM 35h 20' 25" 4h 14' 50"

16 030 STANOVNIK KTM 35h 28' 57" 4h 23' 22"

17 024 CHARBONNEL KTM 35h 47' 13" 4h 41' 38"

18 032 PEREZ KTM 36h 13' 37" 5h 08' 02"

19 028 CROQUELOIS KTM 36h 40' 50" 5h 35' 15"

20 019 ESTEVE PUJOL KTM 41h 33' 42" 10h 28' 07" +1 ura pribitka

Ostalo dogajanje...

19:49 MASUOKA WINS SPECIAL

On the finish line of the 736km special, Hiroshi Masuoka (Mitsubishi n°201) has clocked the fastest time of the day. Second is Stephane Peterhansel (Mitsubishi n°203) at 18min32.

19:48 BRUCY INJURED

After crashing at around km 600, Jean Brucy (KTM n°9) was forced to withdraw from the race with a broken shoulder.

Med avtomobilisti je trenutno stanje v cilju takole:

1 201 MASUOKA / PICARD MITSUBISHI 9h 03' 43" 00' 00"

2 203 PETERHANSEL / COTTRET MITSUBISHI 9h 22' 15" 18' 32"

3 204 KLEINSCHMIDT / PONS VOLKSWAGEN 9h 48' 50" 45' 07"

4 200 SCHLESSER / LURQUIN SCHLES-FORD 10h 15' 01" 1h 11' 18"

Te štirje so edini, ki so prispeli v cilj. Najbolj zanimivo je to, da je Jutta Kleinschmidt diskvalificirana iz tekme, a so se pri VW pritožili, zato lahko še vedno dirka. Zamenjala je namreč agregat, ki ji ga je zalila voda, kar pa po pravilih NI dovoljeno... Jutta, :rtfm:

[<=YaMaHa=>]

MIRAN ZA PREDSEDNIKA :yea2: :yea2: :yea2: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

joke...d ne bo gdo resno uzeu :P

P.S.:

Bravo Miran...še tako naprej! :OK:

[trco]

MIRAN ZA PREDSEDNIKA :yea2: :yea2: :yea2: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

joke...d ne bo gdo resno uzeu :P

P.S.:

Bravo Miran...še tako naprej! :OK:

bolj ko štejem bolj se mi zdi da je Miran drugi (2) v svoji klasi ja kr za predsednika MIRAN POČIVAT JUTR POL PA NA POLNO DEJMO,DEJMO :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni: :grupni:

[renegade]

Bravo - Miran !! :rolleyes:

Sem kar vesel , da je kljub tezki etapi uspesno pripeljal do cilja.

Sedaj pa mislim , da bo imel kar dva dni pocitka - ker so odpovedali 10 - 11 etapo .

Ali ima morda kaksno informacijo , kje sta ostala Brane in njegova zivljenska sopotnica ?? Zjutraj sta startala ..... potem pa za prvo CP ------- nic ?? :?

[Noise]

O Krajnc/Prislan se ne ve nič, neuradno se pričakujejo "ta počasni" proti jutru... Drugače pa nekaj reakcij...

Najprej seveda Miranova... »Etapo sem odpeljal brez večjih navigacijskih težav, bilo je zelo težko saj sem vozil enajst ur in pol, na koncu tik pred ciljem pa sem si še nekoliko zvil gleženj. Nekaj bolečine sicer čutim to je pa tudi vse..« :unsure: B) :notworthy: (by stanovnik.com)

Despres: "It was hell! Ten hours on the bike! Those behind will take twice as long"

Sainct: During the special, we rode with Despres, Roma and Cox. On my own, it would have been boring. The stage was so long.

Meoni: At 200kms from here, the support for my navigation instruments dismounted. I had to repair it on my own...

Še fotka -- by Bor Dobrin

[Noise]

KTM PRESS RELEASE

A catch up ride, an emergency signal and political problems

Did today decide about the outcome of the rally? Most likely it did so because once again the political situation mixes with the sporty decision. You’ll read about it later on.

Two men took advantage of the longest special (736 km) in this year’s Dakar and gained time on the leaders: Cyril Despres and Alfie Cox. After finishing the first part of the marathon-stage, both of them had arrived in a bad mood at the bivouac in Tidjikja yesterday. Today they were going for it. Cyril Despres knew that he had to make up leeway on this long and difficult stage if he wanted to keep a minimal chance for the leadership in the overall standings. And today he has managed to do so. Despres claims the victory on this burdensome course. "It was definitely a great day for me. I had already passed many of the riders in front of me at CP 1 (km 236). The sand was fast and I quickly caught up with Nani and the others." Despres, Roma, Cox, Meoni and Sainct rode in a "convoy" for several hundreds of kilometers through the desert. Something else made Despres happy as well. "I was able to cope with my problems today. After 550 kilometers I ran into some difficulties with my electric. Luckily I was able to repair it. And at kilometer 600 it got difficult to navigate. But else than yesterday I stayed calm and found the right track."

Alfie Cox, too, was riding at a good pace and finished in 2nd place. He was even able to diminish his time gap on Roma who had lost more than 26 minutes in the overalls. However, the Spaniard was able to defend his leadership by a few minutes. He lies 3’33 minutes ahead of Richard Sainct (2nd) and about 28 minutes ahead of Alfie Cox (3rd). So far nothing is decided yet.

However, politics could possibly have called for a preliminary decision. Tomorrow and the day after tomorrow’s stage have been cancelled by the officials due to "political difficulties". French and Mali’s authorities have asked the A.S.O. to avoid racing in the north of Mali. There have not been given any more detailed explanations to the teams during briefing.

Now it means that about 800 kilometers are taken out of the valuation. With that an extremely difficult navigation towards Mopti has been canceled. According to the officials the "toughest stage" to Bobo Diouiasso on Sunday will also not happen. Richard Sainct is pretty mad about it, "This is a bad decision for me. The stages will be missing for my results. I cannot make up time because during these two days and I would have had chances to do so."

Tomorrow the motor bikes are being loaded on trucks and the riders will fly to Bamako, Mali’s capitol. On Sunday they will go on to Bobo Dioulasso where they can enjoy the rest day on Monday. On Tuesday they will start as planned on the 12th stage from Dioulasso to Bamako.

Winfried Kerschhaggl, KTM’s head of marketing, imagines that there is at least one further reason for the cancellation of the stages. "After three difficult successive stages the harshness of the rally has become obvious today. We are talking about strains that brought the riders to their limits. Most of the private riders overextended themselves. The official’s decision to neutralize the next two days is only right. It will keep up the standards of the race."

This harshness, Winfried Kerschhaggl, was talking about could also be seen among the KTM teams. At first Scot Harden crashed and broke the ankle of his left foot. A while later, Jean Brucy dropped out of the race. "The crash wasn’t that bad at all. I simply fell in a stupid way." Brucy broke his right collarbone.

Fabrizio Meoni did have to battle with technical problems today. The brackets for his instruments broke about 150 km before the finish. "The vibrations were simply too much. I could not look into my road book any longer. First I tried to repair the bracket, but it wouldn’t work. Afterwards I had problems with the fast orientation." The Italian lost almost one hour to today’s winner Despres.