MotoGP 2011

[Cartman]

zna bit zanimivo! Red Hot hehe

[hilton]

zna bit zanimivo! Red Hot hehe

rumta pumta time :naughty:

upam da se je kaj naucil iz zadnje dirke

[hilton]

Valentino Rossi, Ducati Team

“We’ve had three weekends without a race so I was able to unwind for a while following the GP12 test at Jerez, although I continued training to help my physical recovery. Now we go to Estoril, a track I quite like, where we’ll continue working on the GP11’s setup, particularly during the test on Monday. The conditions are often unpredictable at Estoril because the area is very windy and close to the ocean, making for variable weather. We saw at Jerez that we’re already competitive in the wet, however we’re hoping for sun in Portugal, so that we can make the most of our time on the track. We still have to understand the bike better and to work on the setup, with the goal of being faster in the dry in time for the most intense phase of the season, when we’ll have six races in eight weeks starting in June.”

Valentino Rossi, Ducati Team

“We’ve had three weekends without a race so I was able to unwind for a while following the GP12 test at Jerez, although I continued training to help my physical recovery. Now we go to Estoril, a track I quite like, where we’ll continue working on the GP11’s setup, particularly during the test on Monday. The conditions are often unpredictable at Estoril because the area is very windy and close to the ocean, making for variable weather. We saw at Jerez that we’re already competitive in the wet, however we’re hoping for sun in Portugal, so that we can make the most of our time on the track. We still have to understand the bike better and to work on the setup, with the goal of being faster in the dry in time for the most intense phase of the season, when we’ll have six races in eight weeks starting in June.”

Ata Rossi si zeli lepo vreme...

zanima me kaj so lahko porihtali v tem malce daljsem premoru..

[KennyJR]

a bomo že spet kegljali? :surrender:

[KennyJR]

simončeli 1. na prvem treningu...

potem stoner in pedrosa 2 desetinki zadaj. mogoče ponovno vozita s povsem polno posodo za gorivo, tako kot sta to počela cel vikend v jerezu. če ne prej se bo videlo na kvalifikacijah, če bosta precej izboljšala čas proti koncu...

lorenzo 4. ampak se mi zdi da ma še precej rezerv.

rossi 5., pa tudi zaostanek ni velik, sam tudi v jerezu je bil na prvem treningu 5, potem pa vsakega naslednjega slabši...

potem sledijo dovi, edwards, spies, barbera... vsaj spiesa bi pričakovali višje... in mislim da bo še napredoval tekom treningov...

zanimivo bo videti kakšno bo kej vreme... sicer bolj upam da bo suho, ker potem stoner nebi smel imeti toliko konkurence, če pa bo mokro, potem pa se hitro zna zgodit kej podobnega kot na prejšnji dirki :glare:

Popravljeno April 29, 2011. Popravil KennyJR

[Demon]

Kako je zdaj z Ducatijem od Rossija, ima enakega kot na prejšnjih dirkah, ali so kaj spremenili?

[jest7]

Kako je zdaj z Ducatijem od Rossija, ima enakega kot na prejšnjih dirkah, ali so kaj spremenili?

Rossijev motor je isti kot v Jerezu. V ponedeljek po dirki testirajo nove dele na čelu z novo šasijo in prevetrenim Desmosedicijem (mislim da ma težjo glavno gred).

[Demon]

Rossijev motor je isti kot v Jerezu. V ponedeljek po dirki testirajo nove dele na čelu z novo šasijo in prevetrenim Desmosedicijem (mislim da ma težjo glavno gred).

Hvala za odgovor. Sicer pa tako mislim, da letošnjega nebodo nič kaj več spreminjali in dograjevali, verjetno bodo s tem pač vozili do konca, kakšen rezultat bo, pač bo... Po moje se bodo bolj posvetili motorju za drugo leto, torej 1000 kubičnemu..

[MihaJ]

simončeli 1. na prvem treningu...

potem stoner in pedrosa 2 desetinki zadaj. mogoče ponovno vozita s povsem polno posodo za gorivo, tako kot sta to počela cel vikend v jerezu. če ne prej se bo videlo na kvalifikacijah, če bosta precej izboljšala čas proti koncu...

lorenzo 4. ampak se mi zdi da ma še precej rezerv.

rossi 5., pa tudi zaostanek ni velik, sam tudi v jerezu je bil na prvem treningu 5, potem pa vsakega naslednjega slabši...

potem sledijo dovi, edwards, spies, barbera... vsaj spiesa bi pričakovali višje... in mislim da bo še napredoval tekom treningov...

zanimivo bo videti kakšno bo kej vreme... sicer bolj upam da bo suho, ker potem stoner nebi smel imeti toliko konkurence, če pa bo mokro, potem pa se hitro zna zgodit kej podobnega kot na prejšnji dirki :glare:

Časi morajo past še vsaj za sekundo, sodeč po prejšnih letih. Bomo videli kako bojo različni piloti napredovali. Simoncelli bi si bolj zaslužil Repsolove barve kot Dovizioso.

Iz intervjuja z Burgessom nekaj dni nazaj z Gpone:

I'd be happy if all the Ducati riders came to me after the season and said, 'thank you!" The Desmosedici needs to be a lot more friendly, but to change it we need to understand it. It isn't turning well right now, and to make it turn the riders have to lean further. But this means you are on the very edge of the tire, which means there is less grip and it's harder to accelerate. This issue is related to both the engine and the chassis.

Pa še intervju iz MCNja od Haydna:

MB: Valentino seems to want some pretty radical changes to the bike; do you think it’s necessary?

NH: It’s clear we need to do a big step. I haven’t heard about different firing order stuff but I know they’re not just going to take it lying down. I’m on their side and we’re in it together so I’m not going to say their theories are wrong.

MB: What’s on your wish list for making changes to the bike?

NH: Obviously it is the front end. I need something softer in the front to try with a different chassis to get some more feeling and better turning.

MB: So you want a chassis with more flex?

NH: They’ve got a softer chassis coming and that’s something I requested at the end of last year. I hope it will help with the under steer. If you get the front better it steers better and changes direction easier, and then there’s more traction because you can get the bike lifted up.

MB: Is the under steer the biggest issue?

NH: Definitely. The front doesn’t give you any warning when you’re about to crash and this was also happening last year. You just crash and you don’t know why. In the long corners we can’t keep speed, we just push wide and lose grip.

MB: It seems the engine modifications are to make the initial throttle response smoother and help the under steer. Is that true from your point of view?

NH: I have problems with the front before I even touch the throttle. It is more when I release the brake, so unless it is related to engine brake or something in the engine I can’t say that power delivery is giving me problems with the front.

MB: How do you think Ducati will react knowing that Valentino doesn’t believe the bike is capable of winning at the moment?

NH: I don’t think they would have brought those guys in if they didn’t want to change things. They wanted that experience and when they talked about bringing Rossi and JB (Jerry Burgess) it was all part of it. I think they are really receptive to hearing their ideas and their way of working.

MB: Casey Stoner said one of the reasons he left Ducati was a lack of resources and the fact that the bike never changes. Is that fair?

NH: The race department is smaller than Honda so it is harder sometimes but I’m not going to say anything too crazy. I’m not going to start throwing the team under the bus or talking a bunch of crap. But you’ve got to be there at 18 races so we need to make it a broader package for different conditions, different tracks and different riders.

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Zelo lepo je Hayden zavil v celofan, da je Ducati skret in da pač nimajo zadosti denarja ali pa ljudi da bi razvoj bil hitrejši. Pa da se jim ne sanja povsem kristalno jasno zakaj sprednja guma drsi.

[Cartman]

Zelo lepo je Hayden zavil v celofan, da je Ducati skret in da pač nimajo zadosti denarja ali pa ljudi da bi razvoj bil hitrejši. Pa da se jim ne sanja povsem kristalno jasno zakaj sprednja guma drsi.

eheheh politično korekten it's bullshit, but if I say it loud I'll be unennployed for 2012

;hmm: Niel Spalding je enkat to kar zgovorno razložu. Ducati naj bi mel dva problema zarad V90 motorja. en, je to, da njihov stroj ni giroskopsko nevtralen, in se odziva zelo grobo. To ruši ravnotežje. Drug problem je, da je motor glavni nosilni element. In ta ni prožen. Vso prožnost lahko iščejo na "nosilcu za vilce" ki je tud airbox in je pritrjen med valje. tale prožnost o kateri je nonstop govor ima eno nalogo. v maksimalnem nagibu nadomešča hod vzmetenja. Tuki imajo zelo podoben problem kot je to mela Honda in jih še vedno ima suzuki ob prehodu na "kontrolirane" gume. ker motor kot nosilni element ne more bit prožen, in je v okvirju premalo "mesa" je vse skupaj pretogo de bi brdgestonke delale tako dobro kot na Yamahi in zdej na Hondi. Zarad te togosti se guma ne mečka dovolj da bi se optimalno grela, in tudi ne čutijo kaj se z gumo dogaja. zato fuknejo brez opozorila.

Danes je finančna slika pri ducatiju najbrž malo drugačna kot je bla do letos. rossi ipak je največji magnet za sponzorje. Nam je pa vsem jasno, da denar ni enako uspeh. Upam da sta genailca sposobna še enkrat nabit konkurenco. bo pa zelo težko.

na slikci je "moje videnje" hoda vzmetenja v zeleni in potreba po prožnosti okvirja v modri.

Popravljeno April 29, 2011. Popravil Cartman

[suzuki]

Hola,

Estoril press conference reunites MotoGP frontrunners

[MihaJ]

Stoner in Rossi se malo igrata igrice; na vprašanje novinarjev je Stoner spet privlekel nesrečo iz Jereza in kasneje rekel '' da če že mora past ta vikend, da upa da bo po svoji krivdi''. Po FP2 pa je Rossi v intervjuju izjavil da ''reči postajajo zabavne, saj imajo dovolj hitrosti za bitko ta vikend''. Dodal je še da ''stare rane iz Lagune Sece 2008 očitno niso povsem zaceljene''.

Mal otročje od Stonerja, Rossi pa mora vrnit. Zgleda da sta oba privlekla težko topništvo za vsak slučaj

Popravljeno April 29, 2011. Popravil MihaJ

[Mutika]

eheheh politično korekten it's bullshit, but if I say it loud I'll be unennployed for 2012

:yes::lol:

Pa še vprašanje, prosim ... vem, katera naprava je giroskop (iz fizike). Ampak, kaj pravzaprav točno pomeni to 'giroskopsko nevtralen' motor?

Hvala že vnaprej.

[ImenitnaPriložnost]

Ampak, kaj pravzaprav točno pomeni to 'giroskopsko nevtralen' motor?

Hvala že vnaprej.

Da mašina ne trza ...

[jaka78]

Da mašina ne trza ...

Ej Mašina dej si tega pedra iz profilne slike dol,pa raj napopej gor kašnga Jima Morrisona,boš večji Đek

[musaschi64]

Ej Mašina dej si tega pedra iz profilne slike dol,pa raj napopej gor kašnga Jima Morrisona,boš večji Đek

Ma kaki Morrison, Pero Detlič.

[karlovacko]

Besedni spopadi Stonerja in Rossija:

And once again there was an on-track confrontation between Valentino and Casey Stoner, with the Australian accusing Vale of following close behind to set a quick lap.

ROSSI: "I don't know what Stoner wants, and if he thinks nobody should ever follow him, then he would be better off racing alone. I've read everything he has said about me lately, and he is making some assumptions that I really can't understand. He's talking about my shoulder injury as if he knows exactly what's going on, he's commenting on my work with Ducati, and saying I am dangerous out on track. I understand what happened in Jerez; I was at fault and I also apologized to him, but I think he's still upset about the defeat at Laguna Seca two years ago. He has been saying all sorts of things about me since then. There are winners and losers in this sport, and on that occasion I was the winner. If he thinks he is the fastest guy out there, he has to prove it. I guess two good tests and a race win were enough for him to start talking, but I don't understand it."

Stoner: “I didn't like that Burgess and Valentino were saying negative things about me during the final part of last season. They said that I couldn't understand the true potential of the bike because I wasn't in top form. Jeremy also said that it would take them 18 seconds to sort out the bike, because it's quite simple, but now they've had it in their hands for months and haven't improved. I think they should have kept their mouths closed because they still didn't understand what riding the Ducati was like. Now I think they have more respect for me and my team. I have never criticized them."

What about Valentino's decision to move to Ducati?

"Valentino wants to be the most important rider on his team. That's why he couldn't go back to Honda and couldn't stay at Yamaha. So he went where they paid the most and offered him the most. He probably said to Burgess: 'We can easily sort out the bike,' seeing the considerable potential that the Ducati had. Of course he was looking for another adventure, but things might be a lot harder this time."

Popravljeno April 30, 2011. Popravil karlovacko

[karlovacko]

rezultati današnjega treninga

[musaschi64]

EJ PUST MOJGA PRJATLA PR MIR!!!

ČE NE BOM ZNORU!

[ImenitnaPriložnost]

Besedni spopadi Stonerja in Rossija:

Ko dve pički ...

[KennyJR]

tale "besedni spopad"... nevem no...

to kar je rekel rossi je že precej jamranje... na drugi strani stoner ne jamra ampak se bl pizdi... lahko bi bil tud mal bol tiho glede tega, ampak očitno to ni v njegovem interesu... nenazadnje vemo da je imel že od vedno kritike na račun rossijeve vožnje, ki je bila roko na srce kdaj pa kdaj res precej agresivna, na drugi strani pa je znal hitro pojamrat če ga je kdo bal trše prijel...

pomojem je stoner na laguno 08 že zdavnaj pozabil, seveda pa to ni bila edina dirka, zaradi katere se ne marata kej preveč...

meni se zdi to sam še en plus v motogp, da je tako kot je, sej nenazadnje je zanimivo spremljat... pa še boji na pisti bi znali bit bolj zanimivi...

stoner je nergač, ki vedno samo nerga, rossi je ena jokica ki potem vedno nekaj jamra... skupaj pa pride to kar pač mamo...

rossi je lani res nekoliko prepotentno kritiziral stonerja, enako jeremy... oba sta mislila da bosta res zadevo rešila v 80 sekundah, ampak očitno tudi pou leta ni dovolj... u bistvu so samo nazadovali, oz ostali tam kjer so, napredka pa ni... res da je nekaj odtehtala tudi rossijeva poškodba in pa privajanje, samo vseeno, sedaj se lahko posipata s pepelom za tisto, kar je bilo takrat slišati iz njunih ust...

kar se pa tiče tega, da rossi pravi da je stoner mel par dobrih testov pa eno zmago... če gremo že v podrobnosti jih kaj več po njegovi zaslugi tud ni mogu met... pa tud nevem kaj se on oglaša, ker ima za slabo par slabih testov in pa eno 5. pa 6. mesto...

z vsem spoštovanjem do njegovih dosežkov, ampak mislim, da se ma pretirano za nekaj več od ostalih, na podlagi dosežkov iz preteklosti... jah to je isto kot da bi se zdele šumaher v F1 šel nevem koga... jah če trenutno nisi najboljši, priznaj da so ostali boljši, ne pa nekaj svojega mutit...

namesto da jamra, naj raje stonerju kakšno nazaj vrže kot "dec", ne pa jamrat kot pička: "reku je da sm nevarn na progi, pa reku je da me rama boli, pa ne razumem pa to pa ono..." hjah...

[Mutika]

tale "besedni spopad"... nevem no...

to kar je rekel rossi je že precej jamranje... na drugi strani stoner ne jamra ampak se bl pizdi... lahko bi bil tud mal bol tiho glede tega, ampak očitno to ni v njegovem interesu... nenazadnje vemo da je imel že od vedno kritike na račun rossijeve vožnje, ki je bila roko na srce kdaj pa kdaj res precej agresivna, na drugi strani pa je znal hitro pojamrat če ga je kdo bal trše prijel...

pomojem je stoner na laguno 08 že zdavnaj pozabil, seveda pa to ni bila edina dirka, zaradi katere se ne marata kej preveč...

meni se zdi to sam še en plus v motogp, da je tako kot je, sej nenazadnje je zanimivo spremljat... pa še boji na pisti bi znali bit bolj zanimivi...

stoner je nergač, ki vedno samo nerga, rossi je ena jokica ki potem vedno nekaj jamra... skupaj pa pride to kar pač mamo...

rossi je lani res nekoliko prepotentno kritiziral stonerja, enako jeremy... oba sta mislila da bosta res zadevo rešila v 80 sekundah, ampak očitno tudi pou leta ni dovolj... u bistvu so samo nazadovali, oz ostali tam kjer so, napredka pa ni... res da je nekaj odtehtala tudi rossijeva poškodba in pa privajanje, samo vseeno, sedaj se lahko posipata s pepelom za tisto, kar je bilo takrat slišati iz njunih ust...

kar se pa tiče tega, da rossi pravi da je stoner mel par dobrih testov pa eno zmago... če gremo že v podrobnosti jih kaj več po njegovi zaslugi tud ni mogu met... pa tud nevem kaj se on oglaša, ker ima za slabo par slabih testov in pa eno 5. pa 6. mesto...

z vsem spoštovanjem do njegovih dosežkov, ampak mislim, da se ma pretirano za nekaj več od ostalih, na podlagi dosežkov iz preteklosti... jah to je isto kot da bi se zdele šumaher v F1 šel nevem koga... jah če trenutno nisi najboljši, priznaj da so ostali boljši, ne pa nekaj svojega mutit...

namesto da jamra, naj raje stonerju kakšno nazaj vrže kot "dec", ne pa jamrat kot pička: "reku je da sm nevarn na progi, pa reku je da me rama boli, pa ne razumem pa to pa ono..." hjah...

Kaj veš, Kenny, mogoče pa je "... oni rekel to, drugi povedal ono, tretji razložil tisto ..." ravno zato, da po forumih razvijamo gospodinjsko psihologijo.

Naj se sliši v deveto vas ... !

[bikez]

Da vidimo, če bo danes kdo spet polena pod motorje metal

[iom]

Ej Mašina dej si tega pedra iz profilne slike dol,pa raj napopej gor kašnga Jima Morrisona,boš večji Đek

Si mi vzel z jezika.

[KennyJR]

in nevem kaj mate vsi tolk prot bibrju... ko boste pa vi 1x tolk dosegl, kot je on, potem se pa naprej oglašajte...

in za spremembo od nekaterih je fant res talentiran in je nekaj naredil iz sebe s pravim talentom in ne s svojo pizdo pa s svojim izgledom...

kar se tiče pa tega kakšen je on... nihče od vas ga ne pozna osebno, tako da ne morete vedt kakšen je... pa nehite že zganjat foušijo... rajš prvošte fantu, ki se je iz socialnega dna dvignil mal višje in uresničil svoje sanje... če vam ni uspelo, zakaj nikomur nebi smelo, oz. je vsak kateremu je uspelo peder, pa kreten pa...

na današnjem warm upu je bil prvi edwards za 7 desetink, pred stonerjem in skoraj sekundo pred rossijem... očitno bo rossi v dežju spet hiter, bomo videli do kam bo prišel, pa kok jih bo podru