Bushman Vs. IraQ (Sim 2,5) Lohka bi se res zgodil!

[Ice]

ja ja,ok.point taken. :lol: 8)

na jetra mi gre ta koncentrirana napicenost samo v eno smer (v bistvu tema ni pomembna) - in vsi bi rabi bili razgledani in omikani in "open minded"....... heh sanja svinja kukuruz....

[volk]

Kozarec je lahko napol prazen al napol poln. 8)

Ene živali (baje) vidijo samo belo in črno. In potem jim ni težko izbrat priljubljene barve. Bi potem to lastnost zamerili ljudem ??!

Naj Evropa ne bi pozabila, da so nam pravzaprav (oz. so jim) ZDA omogočile razvoj demokracijo in standard ki ga premore.

Če v hladni vojni ne bi bilo kontra pola SZ, kje bi bila železna zavesa in standard !?

Že tako je malo manjkalo, da Stalin ni šel čez meje z vojsko. Dobro, da ga je pobralo tik pred.

Vir: Kremeljski naklepi

Moj svet "šaren", si ga barvam sam. :lol:

[TOMY]

Ene živali (baje) vidijo samo belo in črno. In potem jim ni težko izbrat priljubljene barve. Bi potem to lastnost zamerili ljudem ??!

Jaz ti nč ne zamerim...kar dej si duška... :P :wink:

[volk]

Ene živali (baje) vidijo samo belo in črno. In potem jim ni težko izbrat priljubljene barve. Bi potem to lastnost zamerili ljudem ??!

Jaz ti nč ne zamerim...kar dej si duška... :P :wink:

Svoje živalskosti ne zanikam in se je ne sramujem.

Verjetno tudi zato je diferenca pri men med JAZom in NADJAZom majhna.

Rezultat :!: :lol: 8)

[kekec III]

Prihaja:

Gulf War Episode 2

[Alla]

Prihaja:

Gulf War Episode 2

Attack of son

Alla

[kekec III]

Prihaja:

Gulf War Episode 2

Attack of son

Alla

..retardet son...

[BUSAbiker]

No - in tukaj še en humuristični insert o "človeškem ščitu".

Link iz Washington Post-a (http://washingtontimes.com/world/20030302-81084523.htm)

Tukaj pa kljub temu celoten članek. Morda kratek povezetek: ščitniki so upali, da bodo lahko sedeli ob bolnišnicah in sirotišnicah, pa so jim rekli ali naj se postavijo k rafinerijam ali pa spakirajo... Me zanima, kdaj se bodo naši vrnili. Očitno le ni v Iraku tako "fajn".

Anti-war 'shields' in Iraq go home

BAGHDAD — Almost all the first British "human shields" to go to Iraq were on their way home yesterday after deciding that their much-heralded task is now too dangerous.

Two red double-decker buses, which symbolized the hopes of anti-war activists when they arrived to a fanfare of publicity two weeks ago, slipped quietly out of Baghdad on the long journey back to Britain, carrying most of the 11 protesters with them.

Nine out of the 11 activists decided to pull out after being given an ultimatum by Iraqi officials yesterday to station themselves at targets likely to be bombed in a war or leave the country. Two left immediately by taxi, and six more were on the buses last night, bound initially for Syria.

Among those departing yesterday was 68-year-old Godfrey Meynell, who received an emotional farewell from workers at the Baghdad power plant where he has slept for the past week.

Mr. Meynell, a former high sheriff of Derbyshire,said he was leaving out of "cold fear." He had been summoned, along with 200 other shields from all over the world, to a meeting at a Baghdad hotel yesterday morning. Abdul Hashimi, the head of the Friendship, Peace and Solidarity organization that is officially host to the protesters, told the shields to choose between nine so-called "strategic sites" by today or leave the country.

The Iraqi warning follows frustration among Saddam's officials that about 65 of the volunteers had so far agreed to take up positions at the oil refineries, power plants and water-purification sites selected by their hosts.

It heightened fears among some peace activists that they could be stationed at non-civilian sites. Mr. Meynell and fellow protesters who moved into the power station in south Baghdad last weekend were dismayed to find that it stood next to an army base and the strategically crucial road south to Basra.

Many shields had earlier asked to be stationed at sites such as schools, hospitals or orphanages, but Iraqi officials said there was little point in guarding low-risk targets in any aerial assault.

Iraq's decision to force the pace was welcomed by some of those remaining in Baghdad. "It's only fair," said Uzma Bashir, 32, a British college teacher who is one of the team leaders. "We've come here as shields to defend sites, and now the Iraqis are asking us to make our choice."

Pentagon officials have said that in the event of war the United States could not be deterred from attacking militarily significant sites by the presence of human shields. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Friday that the deliberate use of human shields by Iraqi officials would be grounds for war-crimes prosecution.

[uzzy]

http://www.votenowar.org

S tem je dano tudi moje mnenje.

Mislim, da je razlika med sadamom in Hitlerjem velika.

[SiR]

Eh, hecno tole, s tem ščitom...

Pač, vojni turizem, kaj čmo...

me prav zainmajo komentarji vseh ščitnikov sedaj, po tem, ko so veselo odskakljali domov ...

Aja - Marta G. pa še kr vztraja na neki naftni ploščadi, kjer dokončuje svoj podiplomski študij ... Upam samo, da to "dokončanje" ni ultimativno in se bo kljub morebitni sramoti lahko vrnila domov...

[cyc]

Eh, hecno tole, s tem ščitom...

Jap :lol:

Aja - Marta G. pa še kr vztraja na neki naftni ploščadi, kjer dokončuje svoj podiplomski študij ... Upam samo, da to "dokončanje" ni ultimativno in se bo kljub morebitni sramoti lahko vrnila domov...

Seveda, sprenevedanje ... naftne ploscadi so definitivno najvarneje mesto v vsem Iraku, tega si ZDA ne bi sla sesut. Zalostno je, da je dobila deklina za to se drzavno stipendijo, da se tam doli preserava ... sploh ker se gre navadno politiko - in to tako, ki sploh ni v skladu z uradnim staliscem drzave. Kako lahko za to dobi stipendijo, mi res ni jasno ... :?

[AlterMann]

"You know the world is going crazy when

the best rapper is a white guy,

the best golfer is a black guy,

and Germany doesn't want to go to war."

[Nearrain]

[SiR]

How much will war cost?

The tab for invading, occupying and rebuilding Iraq could be hundreds of billions of dollars.

By Mark Gongloff , CNN/Money Staff Writer

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Though speculation about the possibility of war in Iraq has finally ended -- it's happening, and soon -- there's still one mystery that remains to be solved: How much it will cost?

Saddam Hussein has rejected President Bush's call to leave Iraq or face war, and U.S. troops are moving into position for the start of a conflict, which may be delayed by the weather. ( Click here for full coverage from CNN.com).

Bush has so far avoided answering questions about the possible costs of war and rebuilding in Iraq, saying he believes the costs of not acting to disarm and remove Saddam from power outweigh the costs of doing so.

"In terms of the dollar amount, we'll let you know here pretty soon," Bush said at a news conference earlier this month, adding that his administration's estimate of the cost of war would come in a supplemental budget request to Congress, "at the appropriate time."

Democrats have criticized Bush for his reticence and warned that the costs of war could dramatically worsen the federal budget, which is already expected to record the highest deficit in history this year.

Earlier this month, CNN reported that White House officials working on that supplemental request might ask Congress for up to $95 billion to cover two months of war, post-war costs through September and aid to other countries in the region.

White House won't talk about cost

Administration officials have occasionally hazarded guesses about the costs, but the administration has been quick to distance itself from those guesses.

In September 2002, former Bush economic adviser Larry Lindsey said war could cost between $100 billion and $200 billion, speculation that was immediately dismissed by White House Office of Management and Budget Director Mitch Daniels.

Daniels himself said in December that war could cost between $50 billion and $60 billion, but quickly clarified that it was impossible to tell how much the war might cost and that he was simply trying to compare a new war with its only close historical precedent, the first Gulf War, which cost about $60 billion.

Last fall, Democrats in the House estimated war could cost $93 billion. The bipartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO), however, said the war would only cost between $9 billion and $13 billion for initial troop deployment and another $9 billion a month thereafter.

As a measure of just how wide the range of possible costs is, the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, another nonpartisan think tank, said in February that war could cost between $18 billion and $85 billion, that five years of post-war occupation could cost between $25 billion and $105 billion, and that humanitarian and other relief efforts could cost between $84 billion and $498 billion.

Many observers have criticized the Bush administration for keeping Americans in the dark about these potential costs and the possibility that it could take several years and many billions of dollars to rebuild Iraq and help it restructure its government.

"U.S. officials have yet to fully describe to Congress and the American people the magnitude of the resources that will be required to meet post-conflict needs," said a report called "Iraq: The Day After," a report on the costs and consequences of rebuilding Iraq sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations, a nonpartisan think tank.

The report, authored in part by James R. Schlesinger, defense secretary under Presidents Nixon and Ford, and Thomas R. Pickering, ambassador to the United Nations under the first President Bush, estimated that post-war rebuilding -- including reconstruction, humanitarian aid and the deployment of a minimum of 75,000 troops -- could cost $20 billion per year for "several" years.

Rebuilding help may not come

While U.S. coalition partners in the first Gulf War paid for much of that war's costs, it's unclear how much help the United States will get this time, especially after the long and sometimes bitter debate about war in the United Nations in recent months.

"European governments have a card they could play in the current crisis: token assistance in the rebuilding of Iraq, which would largely stick the United States and the United Kingdom with the entire tab," Wachovia Securities economist Jay Bryson wrote in a recent research note.

Some analysts have speculated that the sale of Iraqi oil could help defray some rebuilding costs, but it could take some time to get Iraqi oil fields up and running at full speed, and U.S. officials will want to avoid the appearance that they have commandeered Iraqi oil production and sales, the Council on Foreign Relations report said.

These estimates do not include the potential costs or benefits of a post-war surge or drop in oil prices, nor do they include the potential costs or benefits of a post-war rebound or recession in the U.S. economy.

Yale professor -- and war opponent -- William D. Nordhaus, in a study published late last year, said a short and successful war for the United States and its allies could have a positive impact on oil markets and the economy that would shave about $57 billion from the total costs of the war.

On the other hand, in his worst-case scenario, assuming the war and post-war period go very badly, then the shocks to the oil market and economy could add a staggering $1.2 trillion to the total bill.

Nordhaus' range of total costs for the next decade ran from $99 billion in the best case scenario to $1.92 trillion in the worst case. Ê

Read the studies

CBO study

CSBA study (click "latest from CSBA")

CFR report: "Iraq: The Day After"

William Nordhaus study

[SiR]

>> Queen Elizabeth, Bush and Saddam Hussien died and all went to hell.

>> Queen

>> Elizabeth said: I miss england, I wanna call england and see How

> everybody

>> is doing there....so she called and talked for about 5 minutes...

>> then

> she

>> said: well devil, how much do I owe you? the devil goes: five million

>> dollars... five million dollars!!!? she made him a check and went to

>> sit back on her chair....

>> Bush was soo jealous, he starts screaming, me too, me too, I wanna

>> call

> the

>> united states, I wanna see how everybody is doing too...he calledand

> talked

>> for about 2 minutes, then he said: well, devil how much do I owe ?

>> the devil

>> goes: ten million dollars..... ten million dollars!!!!!!' but he made

>> him

> a

>> check and went to sit back on his chair.....

>> Saddam Hussein was extremely jealous too...he screamed... "I wanna

>> call iraq! I want to see whats going on there, I want to talk to the

> ministers,

>> to the deputee, I wanna talk to everybody"...he called iraq and he

>> talked for about twenty hours, he was talking and talking and

>> talking....

>> after

> 38

>> minutes he puts the phone down : 'well, devil, how much do I owe ????

>> the

>> devil goes: one dollar.....only one dollar!!!!!

>> Saddam says... only one dollar?????? the devil says: well, from hell

>> to hell its local!

[Brrrm]

Ugibanja ni več, zgodilo se je.

[SiR]

Prihaja:

Gulf War Episode 2

Attack of son

... of a Bitch...

[Einherjar]

In bush bo cuval in branil svet in mir, ceprav so vecina proti temu, da nas cuva in ga nihce ni prosil, da to naredi...

Kar se mene tice je to navadna vojna napoved USA vs. Iraq - sam ne bi ravno spekuliral o izhodu boja - ker je precej ocitno.

[LuCy]

Ugibanja ni več, zgodilo se je.

... na obletnico "otvoritve" koncentracijskega taborišča Dachau.

[J]

:roll: Ja res, šok vseh šokov! :shock: 200000 ljudi z orozjem se je nekaj

mesecev nabiralo v puščavi, da občudujejo sončne zahode in klimo!

Pol se grejo pa kar vojno! Kakšno presenečenje!

[SiR]

:roll: Ja res, šok vseh šokov! :shock: 200000 ljudi z orozjem se je nekaj

mesecev nabiralo v puščavi, da občudujejo sončne zahode in klimo!

Pol se grejo pa kar vojno! Kakšno presenečenje!

Valjda - Terme Čatež, USnavy-style :)

[Pravokotar]

Join the US Marines!

You will travel to exotic countries,

meet interesting people

and kill them.

[J]

:lol: ......potem pa "join the best or die like the rest!

"Semper Fide" (latinščina z kmečkim amer. naglasom :lol: )