Intermot ter EICMA ; Köln in Milano 2016

[DAMI34]

pred 2 urami, Nearrain pravi:

Mal si v temo brcnil s tole izjavo.     BMW ni samo GS.

 2015

"""BMW Motorrad once again sold significantly more motorcycles and maxi scooters in 2015 than in the previous year. This means that the motorcycle segment of the BMW Group has achieved a new all-time sales high for the fifth time in succession. With a total of 136,963 vehicles sold (prev. yr.: 123,495 units), the most successful premium manufacturer of motorcycles and maxi scooters supplied 10.9% more vehicles last year than in 2014.

BMW Motorrad once again sold significantly more motorcycles and maxi scooters in 2015 than in the previous year. This means that the motorcycle segment of the BMW Group has achieved a new all-time sales high for the fifth time in succession. With a total of 136,963 vehicles sold (prev. yr.: 123,495 units), the most successful premium manufacturer of motorcycles and maxi scooters supplied 10.9% more vehicles last year than in 2014. In the month of December, too, sales increased by 6.6 % to a new record figure of 7,497 units (previous year: 7,032 units). 

BMW Motorrad experienced growth in all markets worldwide and was the market leader in 26 countries in the premium segment of motorcycles over 500 cc. The markets of North America and Europe made the biggest contribution to the increase in sales."""

se opravičujem, velik je prodal tut Kymco, pa ostali indijski pa azijski giganti...pojnt ni bil govor čez BMw 

[antares]

@DAMI34 Mimogrede, ko že govorimo o novih motociklih; Kawasaki Z1000SX ima sedež pri 815mm, ki je na pogled ka precej širok. Zdi se mi, da bo to za manjše telesne višine precej problematično; kaj praviš? 

[DAMI34]

pred 1 minuto, antares pravi:

@DAMI34 Mimogrede, ko že govorimo o novih motociklih; Kawasaki Z1000SX ima sedež pri 815mm, ki je na pogled ka precej širok. Zdi se mi, da bo to za manjše telesne višine precej problematično; kaj praviš? 

jaz sem 175cm visok,  sedež ni širok (spredaj med nogami) in sem komot s celo nogo bil na tleh ter premikal moped. Prej je bila višina 82cm.

Na GTju se bolj matram, mi je sedež za odtenek širši in višina 83cm od tal.

[antares]

48 minutes ago, DAMI34 said:

jaz sem 175cm visok,  sedež ni širok (spredaj med nogami) in sem komot s celo nogo bil na tleh ter premikal moped. Prej je bila višina 82cm.

To bom moral probati, ko dobijo motor v prodajalno. Vsi Azijci so bistveno manjši, kako jim to prodajo? ali pa imajo znižane modele za vzhodne trge.

MV Augusta! športni motocikel za cesto!

predstavitev v Milanu.

Po Kawasaki Z1000SX in Ducati SuperSport bo letos predstavljen še en cestni športnik znamke MV Augusta. 

[Lipstick]

Ob 4. 10. 2016 at 18:17, antares pravi:

Spodnja half-naked verzija mi je še posebej všeč! 

V vsakem slučaju, to je zelo zaželjen in opazen motor! 

Important Information for Tuono V4 1100 RR and Factory:
 Updates to the RR and Factory:
o Next generation control switches
o TFT display with F1 style shift lights
o Addition of cornering ABS, downshift blipper, pitlane speed limiter,
electronic cruise control (updated ECU, ABS unit, wiring harness, shift rod
sensor)
o Revised Ride-by wire system with a miniaturized demand sensor now in
the handgrip
o Extra 300 rpm redline
o New lighter pistons with lower blow-by
o 330mm brakes (up from 320mm)
o Larger volume exhaust
o Optional 2nd Generation V4 MP system
 Ability to have intercom between two helmets
 Ability to manage phone calls and voice commands while riding
(siri button)
 Updates to the Factory only:
o Ohlins NIX front
 Colors are:
o RSV4 Factory:
 Superpole
o RSV4RR
 Portimao Gray
 Assen Black
 Available:
o Tuono V4 1100 Factory: TBD
o Tuono V4 1100 RR: TBD
 MSRP:
o Tuono V4 1100 Factory: TBD
o Tuono V4 1100 RR: TBD

APRILIA TUONO V4 1100 RR AND FACTORY
FOR THE FASTEST AND SPORTIEST NAKED EVER, DESCENDANT OF THE RSV4, FOUR-TIME WORLD SBK CHAMPION, A NEW EVOLUTIONARY STEP ARRIVES ALLOWING EVEN GREATER LEVELS OF PERFORMANCE TO BE ACHIEVED. NEW SOPHISTICATED ELECTRONIC MANAGEMENT INCLUDES AN ADVANCED DYNAMIC CONTROLS PACKAGE WITH APRC, CORNERING ABS, PIT LIMITER AND CRUISE CONTROL.
THE INIMITABLE 175 HP V4 EARNS EURO 4 APPROVAL, WITHOUT SACRIFICING ANY OF ITS SUPERB PERFORMANCE, NOW WITH IMPROVED SUSPENSION AND BRAKES.
Simply unrivalled. Now more than ever. The Aprilia naked range, heir to a family of motorcycles voted many times as one of the most adrenaline pumping and efficient bikes ever, achieves absolute performance levels and sophistication, thanks to Aprilia's specialized insights acquired over years of winning premier level competitions and the experience of the Tuono history, which is thus confirmed as the only superbike stripped down and fitted with a high handlebar, unbeatable on the track and loads of fun on the road.
The Tuono V4 family of motorcycles is offered in two distinct models. Tuono V4 1100 RR represents an exceptional thrill machine, the heir to a dynasty of naked sport bikes acclaimed by critics as the best in class. Tuono V4 1100 Factory is the more exclusive version, dedicated to an extremely demanding public; this bike is equipped with components which are largely derived from the Aprilia RSV4 RF superbike. The evolutionary step that Aprilia presents for 2017 involves both models that, as before, therefore continue to stand out for their factory outfitting and graphics.
Completely Revamped Electronics
The greatest innovations are presented in the new Tuono V4's on board electronics, that has always been considered as the “best in class”, where the APRC system stands out. Aprilia Performance Ride Control is the patented control suite derived directly from the winning technology in world Superbike, the most complete and refined of those available on the market. The fourth generation of APRC, standard on the Tuono V4 1100, fits perfectly with the electronic management of the new full Ride-by-Wire throttle, that has allowed all superfluous throttle body electronic management components to be eliminated, thereby saving 590 grams. The repositioning of the inertial platform that allows APRC operation has improved accurate detection of the dynamic conditions of the bike, resulting in more efficient electronic control strategies.
The Tuono V4 1100 RR and Tuono V4 1100 Factory APRC include:
- New ATC: Aprilia Traction Control, adjustable on the fly, (without having to release the throttle) to 8 settings, as well as disabled, thanks to a practical joystick, now even more fine-tuned logic for higher performance operation.
- New AWC: Aprilia Wheelie Control, adjustable to 3 levels, also well as disabled, receives more precise operating strategies thanks to the repositioning of the inertial platform. Wheelie control can now be adjusted on the fly without closing the throttle, like the ATC, thanks to the new and more practical left side electric block.
- New ALC: Aprilia Launch Control, for use on the track only, with 3 settings, more effective with new operating strategies.

New AQS: Aprilia Quick Shift, the electronic gearbox that allows shifting without closing the throttle and without using the clutch, now adds the capability of clutchless downshifting. Its open-throttle downshifting feature is exclusive.
- New APL: Aprilia Pit Limiter lets you select and limit the top speed allowed in pit lane at the track or simply to make it easier to comply with posted speed limits on the road.
- New ACC: Aprilia Cruise Control. The new electronic management allows an advanced cruise control system to be introduced, convenient on long trips, letting rider maintain the set speed without touching the throttle.
The new Tuono V4 1100 range is fitted with the advanced multi-map Cornering ABS system, developed in collaboration with Bosch to guarantee maximum safety on the road, without sacrificing performance on the track. The 9.1 MP system, both compact and lightweight, is able to optimize braking and the ABS intervention in corners, thanks to a specific algorithm that constantly monitors various parameters such as lateral acceleration, the pressure applied to the front brake lever, the lean, pitch and yaw angles, modulating the braking action to better guarantee the ratio between deceleration and stability. The new ABS system works in unison with the Aprilia RLM (Rear Liftup Mitigation) system that limits the lift of the rear wheel during more abrupt braking. Cornering ABS, fine-tuned in accordance with Aprilia's specific indications, is adjustable to 3 levels of sensibility and can be switched off. In order to allow riders with various levels of experience to find the best possible combination, each of the three Cornering ABS maps can be combined with any of the three new engine maps (Sport, Track, Race) – all three allowing “full power” while differing in their strategies of applying the 175 HP of which the Aprilia V4 is capable, in addition to the percentage of engine brake dedicated to them.
The color TFT digital instrumentation is also entirely new, with exceptional display options. The two selectable screen pages (Road and Race, both with night and day backlighting) correspond to as many represented indexes. There is an optional new version of the V4-MP, the Aprilia multimedia platform that lets you connect your smartphone to the vehicle, introducing a true corner by corner electronic settings calibration system with data that can subsequently be downloaded to your laptop (or displayed directly on the smartphone screen) for analysis, similar to that of an actual race team. The new V4-MP adds a new connection protocol that minimizes smartphone battery consumption, in addition to providing a larger range of circuits already mapped in which you can manage the electronic settings corner by corner, as well as user acquisition of a new circuit not pre-installed by Aprilia. V4-MP includes the new infotainment system, introduced by Aprilia for the first time on the new Tuono V4, to manage voice commands and incoming/outgoing telephone calls with your smartphone.
Euro 4 Engine, the Same Exciting Performance
The Tuono V4 1100 is the only naked powered by a 65° V4 engine with unique characteristics. The narrow V architecture has made it possible to make an engine that is extremely compact lengthways which helps centralize weight, while maintaining a compact chassis. The changes made in this evolution of the Italian V4 not only resulted in earning Euro 4 approval, but also in increasing overall reliability and performance, without sacrificing the great character and marvelous sound that riders love so much. The powerplant earns a new exhaust system with a silencer that has a double oxygen sensor and a built in valve. The engine ECU is new, with superior calculating capacity able to manage the rise in maximum revs, now 500 rpm higher. In order to guarantee maximum reliability, decreasing friction at the same time, the piston pins receive DLC surface, and

connecting rod heads boast a surface honing treatment. The combustion chambers are no longer obtained through a fusion process, but by a finer, numerically controlled mechanical process, whereas the gearbox now has a linear sensor to guarantee impeccable gearshift operation.
Suspension and Brakes Directly from the New RSV4
If, on one hand, the new Tuono V4 range fully confirms all the proverbial qualities of handling and stability stemming from a frame that is closely derived from that of the Aprilia RSV4, seven-time World Superbike champion, on the other, it introduces important upgrades in the brakes and suspension department. The front Brembo braking system comes directly from the one on the new RSV4 and relies on a pair of new steel discs that have been increased to 330 mm, gripped by the new monobloc M50 calipers and activated by a radial master cylinder on the handlebar. Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory also has a prestigious Öhlins NIX, with fully adjustable hydraulics and spring preload. This unit saves nearly 400 grams compared with the previous iteration and is combined with the same brand rear shock absorber and steering damper (both adjustable).
Versions and Colors
The new Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 range includes two models distinguished by different technical equipment and different color schemes: Tuono V4 1100 RR is available in two attractive color schemes, Grigio Portimao and Nero Assen, whereas the Superpole graphic of the Tuono V4 1100 Factory retains the decidedly non-conformist spirit so typical of the Aprilia stylistic tradition that demands bright and very distinctive colors. Tuono V4 1100 Factory stands out technically because of the most refined trio of Öhlins suspension systems and stylistically because of its magnificent tail fairing (approved for two-up) derived from the RSV4. The cast aluminum wheels are the same for both models: their lightweight quality contributes to a maximum reduction of the gyroscopic effect, all to the advantage of great handling. Tuono V4 1100 Factory is shod with the more sporty Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa, with a wider 200/55 on the rear approved for street use, and available for the Tuono V4 RR as well which, on the other hand, comes standard with 190/55 on the rear and new Pirelli Diablo Rosso III tires.

Grrrrrrrr 

[DAMI34]

Brez panike, čez 2 leti bomo spet grrrrrr napisali...mah kurc, že zdej lah napišem grrrrrrrr

 

[antares]

Bienalni sejem Intermot v Kölnu se je zaključil z rekordnimi 220.000 obiskovalci (200.000 leta 2014).

Naslednji Intermot bo leta 2018, od 3. do 7. oktobra 2018.

[antares]

In ravno za zaključek: MV Augusta je danes napovedala dva motocikla  2017 MV Agusta F3 675 RC in 800 RC F3.  

 poganja jih famozni tri-cilindričen agregat.

MVICS platform (Motor & Vehicle Integrated Control System), ride by wire in traction control-8 nivojev regulacije. Okvir je v kombinirani izvedbi; sprednji del je izveden iz jeklenih cevi, centralni del iz plošč v aluminijevi zlitini, ki skupaj z zadnjim blažilcem tvori zadnji del. 

MV F3 675 RC -  128 CV (94,2 kW) moči pri 14.400 obrat/min in 71 Nm (7,24 kgm) navora pri 10900.

 MV F3 800 -  148 CV (108,8 kW) moči pri  13.000 obrat/min in  88 Nm (8,97 kgm) navora pri  10.600.

 

 

[sebar]

On 8. 10. 2016 at 7:21 PM, antares said:

To bom moral probati, ko dobijo motor v prodajalno. Vsi Azijci so bistveno manjši, kako jim to prodajo? ali pa imajo znižane modele za vzhodne trge.

MV Augusta! športni motocikel za cesto!

predstavitev v Milanu.

Po Kawasaki Z1000SX in Ducati SuperSport bo letos predstavljen še en cestni športnik znamke MV Augusta. 

FYI, turismo veloce se prodaja že najmanj dve leti. Meni zelo všečen moped z zlo nevšečno ceno  

[enporio]

Jaz pa komaj čakam tole Multistrada 939 ki naj bi bila predstavljena v Milanu..

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/rumors/photos-ducati-multistrada-939/

Mislim da to tole všečna zadeva...samo cena

[antares]

No, to je športno-cestni motocikel, ki bo konkuriral novemu Ducati SuperSport.

Predstavitev bo v Milanu; zaenkrat tale slikica s strani tovarne.

Izpuhi so fenomenalni!

[Jure]

Ne deluje nekam stlačeno? Kot da bi ga nekdo v primež dal, pa malo stisnil? Sicer pa zanimivo

[antares]

7 hours ago, Jure said:

Ne deluje nekam, kot da bi ga v primež dal, pa malo stisnil?

Pravzaprav sem bil najprej pomislil, da je to optična utvara; višje krmilo ter višje "telo" motocikla, nato pa me je prešinilo, da je pri cestni različici sam trup kvečjemu bližje cesti v primerjavi s športnimi motocikli in s tem je tudi sedež nižji.

Sklepajoč iz tega je ta motocikel res očitno zelo nenavadno proporcioniran. Skupaj z verjetno visoko ceno dvomim, da se ga bo kaj dosti prodalo.

 

[DAMI34]

pred 8 urami, Jure pravi:

Ne deluje nekam stlačeno? Kot da bi ga nekdo v primež dal, pa malo stisnil? Sicer pa zanimivo

MW agusta, po mojem je dimezij Multistrade. Versys varianta :D. Jaz ga ne bi okarakteriziral kot športno-cestni, bolj kot šporno potovalni.

[antares]

Ducati

[Rey]

http://www.insella.it/news/eicma-2016-benelli-trk-502-piccola-crossover-tuttofare-138460

 

[Joker]

Škoda, da tudi pri Benelliju menijo, da je za uspeh na trgu nujno potreben kljun...

Res bi od njih pričakoval nekaj izvirnega!

Popravljeno November 4, 2016. Popravil Joker

[Rey]

Mislim, da so se precej zgledovali po Multistradi. Res pa ne vem kaj je ta manija s tem kljunom...GS, Multistrada, Strom, kit za starega Versysa.

Drugače pa mi je ta Benelli vizuelno kar všečen motor. Dobra opcija za začetnika, solo voznika.

[NumLock]

pred 23 minutami, Joker pravi:

Škoda, da tudi pri Benelliju menijo, da je za uspeh na trgu nujno potreben kljun...

Res bi od njih pričakoval nekaj izvirnega!

Zakaj prst dol? Meni je ta motor izredno všeč. Dejstvo je, da inženirji in dizajnerji zelo dobro prečekirajo trg in konkurenco in na podlagi tega nastajajo motorji in njihove oblike. Res je, vsakemu ne paše kljun, ampak ta Benelli je izredno všečen. Še lepši bi bil v rdeči barvi in zlate felge.

Posebno všeč so mi kufri, ker imam isti komplet tudi sam. 

Se pa strinjam, vsak ima svoj okus in vsake oke majo svojga malarja.

[Joker]

Pravkar, DL650 pravi:

Zakaj prst dol? Meni je ta motor izredno všeč. Dejstvo je, da inženirji in dizajnerji zelo dobro prečekirajo trg in konkurenco in na podlagi tega nastajajo motorji in njihove oblike. Res je, vsakemu ne paše kljun, ampak ta Benelli je izredno všečen. Še lepši bi bil v rdeči barvi in zlate felge.

Posebno všeč so mi kufri, ker imam isti komplet tudi sam. 

Se pa strinjam, vsak ima svoj okus in vsake oke majo svojga malarja.

 

Motor je že v redu. Ampak od Benellija bi pričakoval, da ne bodo šli delat "enakega med enakimi" če razumeš, kaj hočem povedati...

[NumLock]

Pravkar, Joker pravi:

 

Motor je že v redu. Ampak od Benellija bi pričakoval, da ne bodo šli delat "enakega med enakimi" če razumeš, kaj hočem povedati...

Mi je popolnoma jasno, kar želiš povedat, ampak to je zdaj trend in vsi se prilagajajo, če ne jih cajt povozi. 

[Cartman]

On 10/29/2016 at 10:15 AM, DAMI34 said:

MW agusta, po mojem je dimezij Multistrade. Versys varianta :D. Jaz ga ne bi okarakteriziral kot športno-cestni, bolj kot šporno potovalni.

morda je kriva linija, morde kot gledanja, mord luč.....turismo veloce je majhen motor. okvir, stol....vse zelo okmpaktno objema motor. 

2 hours ago, Rey said:

http://www.insella.it/news/eicma-2016-benelli-trk-502-piccola-crossover-tuttofare-138460

 

komu točno to konkurira in s čim? z imenom, izgledom in zmogljivostmi ne, torej bo pocenski? ime samo je prej ovira kot argument za nakup...men se zdi izredno težko zalaufat u tako besni konkurenci. ampak, držmo pesti de jim rata. 

[sebar]

On 29. 10. 2016 at 10:15 AM, DAMI34 said:

MW agusta, po mojem je dimezij Multistrade. Versys varianta :D. Jaz ga ne bi okarakteriziral kot športno-cestni, bolj kot šporno potovalni.

Po dimenzijah je dosti bližja versaču kot pa multistradi.  

2 hours ago, Rey said:

http://www.insella.it/news/eicma-2016-benelli-trk-502-piccola-crossover-tuttofare-138460

 

Tale Benelli je bil že lani na EICMI. V živo je manjši kot deluje na sliki. Recimo nekje v stilu v-stroma 650

[thumper]

"Ultimo dato interessante il peso: 213 kg a secco, che promettono agilità e facilità di guida" ... 213 kg prazen??? za 500ccm je to nekih 35 - 40 kg preveč ... to spada med težke če ne najtežje krave v svojem segmentu glede na kubaturo..

[Fazer03]

pred 3 urami, Joker pravi:

Škoda, da tudi pri Benelliju menijo, da je za uspeh na trgu nujno potreben kljun...

Res bi od njih pričakoval nekaj izvirnega!

Ja ampak glede na to, kdo je lastnik (mojstri kopiranja) me niti ne čudi, da je tak, kakršen je ...

 

" Keeway je evropska registrska znamka skupine QIANJIANG GROUP iz Kitajske. To je multinacionalna organizacija, ki opravlja dejavnosti načrtovanja, razvoja, izdelave, prodaje in servisa skuterjev, motornih koles in štirikolesnikov.

 

 

Keeway je vrhunska znamka skupine QIANJIANG GROUP, ki ji zaupa veliko število kupcev po vsem svetu zahavaljujoč kvalitetni izdelavi, privlačnemu dizajnu in ugodnih cenah v njihovi proizvodnji skuterjev, motornih koles in štirikolesnikov ter postprodajnim aktivnostim.

 

 

QIANJIANG GROUP ima preko 14.000 zaposlenih. Letno izdelajo preko 1.200.000 skuterjev, motornih koles in štirikolesnikov. To jih uvršča med največje kitajske prozvajalce dvokolesnikov.

 

        

 

Zelo moderna tovarna se razprostira na 670.000 m2. Med drugim so tudi lastniki priznanega italjanskega proizvajalca motornih koles Benelli.

 

 

 

 

Sedež podjetja Keeway za Evropo se nahaja na Madžarskem, kjer skrbijo za dobro organizirano prodajno in servisno mrežo v vseh evropskih državah."