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Učeri skok na Nanos in makadamsko prečenje do Podkraja, Kalce in nazaj domov. Skupaj 170 km. Bilo pa je takole: Proti Gorici in Alpam TV oddajnik v ozadju pobeljeni Snežnik Kamniške Alpe, v dolini meglena ljubljanska kotlina Učka Proti našemu morju. Desno Gradež in v ozadju Benetke Na koncu makadama sem se pripeljal v Podkraj Jesenska pobarvanka

premier borut, sram me je... sram, da sem želel janšev neuspeh in vaš uspeh na zadnjih parlamentarnih volitvah. zdaj sem dokončno ugotovil; nesposobni in neprimerni ste! nesposobni voditi državo, nesposobni priznati napake in nesposobni počistiti v svojih krogih. motiti se je človeško, še bolj človeško za svoje zmote obtoževati druge, prepričevati davkoplačevalsko ljudstvo, da se z njihovim denarjem ne igrate kot svinja z mehom pa, glede na zadnja dejanja, prav nesramno in neprimerno... zadnja zadeva z gospo dimic kaže na to, da imate skorajda celotno prebivalstvo slovenije za maloumno! tole metanje peska v oči, intervju gospe dimic in vaše zagovarjanje njenih dejanj je nedopustno. če premier v takih očitanih kršitvah in sumov korupcije osebne svetovalke ne ukrepa vsaj z začasnim suspenzom smo slabši od banana republike. še za bananin olupek nismo. res me je sram! le do kdaj bo narod apatično spremljal tovrstno obnašanje vodstva "države"? aja, borut, naj tole pisanje končam z nečim pozitivnim, da ne boste rekli, da sem omejen negativec. lepi ste, borut, lepi. kar sijete! red bull, kremice in praški, kljub temu, da so nekateri prepovedani, vam dajo krila!!! pa srečno!!!

Mene samo zanima prva reakcija Rossija, ko bo stopil iz Ducat-ia. Kakšen komentar bo? Se spomnete prvega komentarja Niki Hayden-a: "What ever they are paying Stoner to ride this thing, it isn't enough"... :evilgrin:

Meni pa se je zgodil zanimiv dogodek v Rusiji: Se menim z Rusi od kje sem in kako velika je Slovenija okoli 300 km po dolgem pa mi en reče: Zakaj pa te maš motor, saj se nimaš kje vozit!

Drugič na panoniji 16.10.2010 s časom 2:10:138 doseženim na dirki hitrih. Yamaha R1 06 Dunlop 211GP (medium) in 211GP-zadnja (soft)

Dan

No, pr Janševih ali še bolj pri NSi-ju dobimo poleg slabega vladanja še 'kulturno revolucijo'.

Ker me je kolega iz tujine prosil, da mu pomagam pri ogledu motorja, sem si vzel cas in spisal tole check listo . Miiiicken sem jo tudi prekopiral, priznam . Sej vem, sej vem, sem najboljsi in oh in sploh. Evo, tukaj je pa si jo lahko malo pogledate, skopirate, oznacite itd. Na zalost je ura pozna, jst pa len, tako da je ne mislim se prevajat. Ce pa ima kdo kaksno posebno zeljo, pa kar veselo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Checking a used motorcycle before actually buying it. First of all: Take your time. I never ever hurry when looking at a bike. It's half the fun, also. You can really get to know a bike, even when you’re just looking to buy. Maybe this information will help your friends in the future. Feel the bike, get friendly with the owner,… and try not to show you don’t know what you’re doing J . So that also means you don’t carry this list with you. It also means you try to prepare for the entire deal. Try reading some tests of the bike, try gathering some information of the seller/owner of the bike. Is he a well known biker? Is there an internet forum, dedicated to the bike? Ask around about the bike. Is it known to be an okay ride? Of course, everybody roots for the bike they own, so try to find an objective opinion. So, you will be needing at least a helmet, tiny flashlight (try not to be too obvious, so a small light will do), tissues, workshop gloves (or maybe surgical latex gloves so you look more serious and you don’t stain yourself). Try wearing stuff that you can lay on the floor in or bring a floor mat. I always try to come by bike in full equipment, makes me a bit more serious buyer and also I can see how my equipment fits with the bike I’m about to buy. A notepad and a pencil is also a good idea, too, because you know, smart people write things down. I try to separate the check-up in 4 stages. * Visually assess the bike, * Check the bike over, * Ride the bike. I CAN’T POINT ENOUGH STRESS ON THIS. NEVER EVER EVER EVER BUY A BIKE YOU HAVEN’T RIDDEN. THE ONLY POSSIBLE EXCUSE IS THAT SOMEONE YOU TRUST HAS RIDDEN IT FOR YOU. AND EVEN THAT IS … LET’S SAY, UNCOMMON. * Check the bike again, and the most important one that goes without saying, but it must be said: TALKING to the owner/seller Try writing some facts down, your memory isn’t so good that you can remember every single detail. First of all: BE NICE! Get to know him. Gain his trust. If he's a biking enthusiast, he'll be wanting a nice owner for his old bike. He also might share some information with you, that he might not otherwise. Does he have all of the documents? Are they all there? Ask to see the owner's manual (if the owner doesn't have the manual, maintenance may not have been done when it should have been). Find out if owner(s) has done self-maintenance. If so, does current owner have a torque wrench? Over-torqued fasteners and stripped threads are no fun. Did he use original parts or aftermarket parts? Why? Are they just cheaper or actually better? Did he spend time writing a log of the bike? If he did, ask him for a copy. The log (if exists) is usually a lot more reliable than the service book of the bike. And this also shows the owner being meticulous. If the bike has any aftermarket equipment, does the owner have the homologation for it? Does he still have the original parts? Does the bike have an aftermarket exhaust? With homologation? And dB killers? Find out his riding habits. If the bike is used only for a short commute on a regular basis, it may not get warmed up enough to evaporate moisture in the engine and exhaust system and rust and lubrication contaminants will result. If the rider spends a lot of time in hot stop-and-go traffic, the engine may frequently be subject to excessively high temperatures. Ask the owner of his previous rides. Did he go to many strange places? Was he ever in places that has poor gasoline? Did he ride a lot with a pillion? (passenger) Pillion rides tend to wear the bearings, chain and the engine a bit more, but that also means that he rode in a nice way. Did he ride in all weather? Again, the bearings and the chain suffer more in the wet, let alone salt from the roads. Did he lubricate the chain frequently enough? 500kms or less in bad weather. Is he a member of a motor club? MK, MC? Did he go to many motorcycle gatherings? Did he do any burnouts? Burnouts can be spotted by pieces of burned rubber on the inner side of the rear fender or under the seat places like exhaust pipes etc. Did he flame the exhaust? He will probably not admit it, but a lot of people do that. Check the pipes and exhaust collector for bluish-purple discoloring of the area. That points to over-revving the engine, or maybe racetrack use. Ask if he was ever on a racetrack. Try to avoid bikes that were on the track, ‘cause usually people force their bikes to the limits on track. Not necessary, though. Some people just go to the track to get to know the bike a bit more and improve their riding style. Has he been on a safe riding course? That means that he’s probably a neat and safe rider. Make sure there is a reputable dealer in your area. The best way to do this is to ask the owner. Ask if there is any specialist that he goes to when it comes to service. Can you service your bike there, too? Could you get a good deal on the service costs? Better that other places? What’s the mileage he has been making? Is it the same as you found out online? Not the brochure, but from other owners. How long did the last set of tires last him? Is that normal? What is needed to be done in the near future, as his recommendations? Why? Write down frame and engine numbers. They should agree. Check with local Police Department to make sure bike isn't stolen. You may be able to check maintenance records with original dealer. Visually assess the bike Walk around the bike slowly, get into the feeling of the bike’s “vibes” and what you like or dislike about it. Ask yourself if you really like the bike. You will probably be stuck with it for quite some time. There are a lot of articles you can find about suitability of a certain bike, but when you fall in love with the bike, everything goes away. Try to be calm and check the bike like you’re supposed to. Is the bike clean? Too clean, maybe? Is the bike polished to perfection? A very neat owner or is he trying to hide anything? My personal tip would be, to try and surprise the seller. Don’t let him polish the bike. If the bike is just a bit dirty (not too much, though), you can see some leaks or damage, you wouldn’t see on a totally clean and polished bike. Check for immediately noticeable damage. If any exist, try to define how bad it is, check for additional damage, ask how it happened etc. Is the owner willing to fix it before you buy it? How costly would the fixing of the problem be? Write it down, maybe it will be an easy fix and a great price buster. CHECK FOR ANY LEAKS ANYWHERE ON THE BIKE! Forks, brakes, race bearing, petrol tank, all of the hoses, oil tank, oil seal, rear shocks, everything. Take your time, it could save you a lot of trouble later on. Check for tire wear and the state of the tires. ARE THEY A MATCHING PAIR?! Are the tires used from one edge to the other? Was the owner a maniac? Are here parallel lines on the rear tire? They point to burnouts. Are they nicely round or are they squared off? What’s the range they will last still? Lights: do they work? Instruments: do they work? Ask about frequent service. It should be done at 10.000kms. Where was the service done? Check the seat hardness, the state it’s in, scratches? Does the bike have a toolkit and a first aid kit? Is the tool kit all there? Check if the bike has a center stand. Check the bike over. Don’t hurry. Take your time. Here is the part, that you will find if anything is wrong with the bike. Don’t be afraid to get on your knees or even lying under the bike. It makes you look like you know what you’re doing and you can actually see some stuff under the bike, that you normally wouldn’t. People usually don’t think that anybody would lie down to check, so they don’t also. If the seller claims the bike has never been down, check the lower engine parts, brake and clutch lever ends, handgrips, foot pegs, exhaust pipes, and case guards for telltale abrasions. Make sure the handlebars are aligned exactly perpendicular to the bike longitudinal axis. Look for missing hardware, e.g., nuts, bolts, brackets, cotter pins. Check for any scratches or discoloring and/or fluid seepage on the front forks. The upper tubes should be pristine. If the front forks are USD (upside down), the same thing applies to lower tubes. Block up the engine so the front wheel is off of the ground and check for play in the front forks (grab them and try to move them front to back or side to side. There shouldn't be any play if the steering head bearings are any good. Rotate the forks and check for smooth movement, if you feel bumps or catching, the steering head bearing races may be worn or notched. Be sure the front tire rotates smoothly, doesn't squeak, and is not bent. Check chain play and adequacy of lubrication of the chain. Look for sprocket wear (clean off a few teeth and check quality of metal finish and symmetry of features). Check for chain wear. And the chain tension. Check the brakes for sponginess & loose feel. If the bike is more than five years old, the original hoses may be due for replacement. Look for brake fluid leaks at cylinders, calipers, and hose connections. Check fiber pad thickness. Operate brake levers and hold them operated for a while to check for weakening of resistance to the applied pressure. Check the clutch and brake levers for smooth operation and proper adjustment. Ask owner if brake cylinder kits have ever been replaced. Some manufacturers like Yamaha recommend installation of new cup seals every two years. Find out if brake fluid has ever been replaced. It should be replaced at least every two years. Check for smooth finish of brake discs. Are they thick enough? Are they straight? If you see them bent with just your eyes, run away. Find out if fork oil has every been replaced. Pull spark plugs and check for consistency of appearance, dryness, light gray appearance. Make sure spark plugs have never been cross-threaded (look for heli-coil inserts in cylinder head.) Look at the oil. If it's dirty, you will need an oil change or just forget the bike. There are too many good ones for sale that have had regular oil changes and routine maintenance. Check the battery box (i.e., the metal platform on which the battery sits) and terminals for corrosion. Check the screws that secure light lenses (turn, tail) for corrosion. You can usually see this as darkened area in the plastic around the screws. On bikes with alloy rims and engine parts, look for stains in the metal. If these were caused by exposure to cleaning chemicals like alkaline cleansers, you may not be able to get the stains out. RIDE THE BIKE Some people don’t let you ride the bike. BULL SHIT! You never ever buy a bike you’ve never ridden before. Persuade him. If he won’t let you, JUST GO AWAY. He might change his mind and call you back. If he doesn’t, his loss. BUT! !! Don’t damage the bike, when you test ride it! There can be massive complications if that shit happens. But if you accidentally do crash the bike, BUY IT. It’s the only decent thing to do. You probably only dropped it, right? Some broken plastics and scratches that YOU DID, can be fixed in no time and for a low amount of money. It happens. So, let’s go on with the riding part of the bike test. Don’t just jump on it and GOOO! No, that’s a bad idea. Again, take your time and do it right. You might learn some things. Make sure you fit on the bike and that the bike fits the riding you plan to do. Make sure you are strong enough to stand it back up if it falls over. He he, don't actually drop the bike to find out. Try to imagine, right? Make sure you can push it a few blocks in case you have to do this on the road. Make sure you can sit on it and lift it from the stand. If it has a center stand, try putting the bike on the stand, to see if you're strong enough. If you have problems with that, ask the owner, if he has any special tricks. We all do. Make sure you get to see the bike started cold (so you can verify that it WILL start cold.) After it has warmed up, kill the engine and crank it several times with the kill switch on to see if the battery can handle the repeat loads. Does the exhaust smoke too much? Black, white, blue? Not good. Check with the owner, why. If he says that's normal, he is a big fat liar! Listen to the warmed-up engine for excessive tappet noise, clutch noise (for Ducati motorbikes dry clutch MUST make a racket), or transmission noise. Make sure the bike will idle at the RPM specified for idle, around 1000RPM. If the bike has multiple exhaust pipes, check that the pressure pulses emitted from each pipe are similar and regular by holding your palms a few inches from the opening to feel the pulses. Does the exhaust smell okay? It doesn't smell of burnt oil? Get off the bike and check around the bike for any major leaks. Turn your attention to the engine oil leaks. Are there any? Make sure the lights, horns, gauges, etc. all work. Check for proper voltage regulator operation by watching headlight brightness while you rev the engine. Make sure the bike doesn't pop out of gear under heavy loading in all the gears (especially second gear). Ride the bike very slowly and do a few tight turns. Look for wobbling in the front end. Check cornering stability at low and high speeds. Try the brakes. Do they stop okay? Do they lock-up at any point? Do they vibrate, when you brake vigorously? Does the ABS step in at once? Does it even have an ABS? he he Get off the bike and CHECK THE BIKE AGAIN At this point you should check the bike practically the same way you’re supposed to check it at first, but only a bit faster and a bit less meticulous. Turn your attention to all of the hoses, brakes, possible leaks and so on. That’s it. Buy the owner a drink, comment about the bike, try to reason about the price and that’s about it. Oh, don’t forget a very important thing: BRING THE MONEY FOR THE RESERVATION WITH YOU!! ABOUT 10% OF THE BIKES’S PRICE!! Don’t be a fool. If the bike is solid, if you’re about to buy it, reserve it!! I’ve had many friends moaning about the great bikes that had slipped from their fingers, for not putting the money on the sunlight at once. By Jakob

Nihče od "igralcev" v BB ne bo nobenega tožil ker: -so podpisali eno tako lepo pogodbo -ta pogodba vsebuje nešteto klavzul -veliko teh klavzul vsebuje še drobni tisk, ki je komaj berljiv tako, da lahko popo tv in lastnik licence (mednaroni) počnejo z njimi karkoli hočejo, pa jim ti slavneži ne morejo nič. Verjetno ima vsak od njih (ali pa vsaj nekateri) v šovu tudi že obljubljeno in podpisano nagadico (beri honorar), kar jim ponovno preprečuje kakršnekoli tožbe, izjave... Pa da ne bo kdo mislu, da se mi smilijo. Sami so hoteli, pa naj se zabavajo. Jaz vem, da verjetno ne bi zdržal niti en dan v tisti škatli kričečih barv in namontiranih kamer.

Predlagan in sprejet zaključni izlet na kračo in pivo sem, dobimo pa se ob 10:00 pri AtaIBI-eji v soboto v bajstrici!

Hmmmm. če bi delal v Vegradu, bi lahko bil v Murglah fajn zaslužo in bi lahko mel sobote fraj ! Sicer pa, tak se ti zgodi, če firmo prodaš za en ojro ... he he ... in potem te mora pa Semolič branit ! Al pa nimaš vinjete in ne upaš z nami, da se nebi na Ptuju zgubil ... ? Mater sn žleht, saj vem.

Pol pa se moramo dobiti na tuševi pumpi ob 10:00, nazaj na poti pa te pridemo pozdraviti!

Mračne sile na pohodu . IBA je jutri celi dan na objektu v Logatcu, ata pa mora med 9 in 12 uro "služit" v Hočah. Tak da zame fura odpade . Upam, da bote uživali 100/h.

Kako in s čim "okoli sveta"? Predvsem z domišljijo.

Pa Dražgoše zamenjajo Teharje, prireditve okol "skalpirane " Ljubljane zamenjajo reportaže iz Kočevskega roga, na TV se vrnejo oddaje iz leta 1991...ampak vse to se še da prenest. Najhujši udarec, vsaj zame, je 5x na teden po par minut Branko Grims. BG v parlamentu, BG kot gost pri TV Dnevniku, BG v Piramidi....... Ma nej vlada Janša, samo BG nej mi skrijejo....

Hvala za prijetno predstavitev in druženje, upam, da se še kdaj vidimo na takšnem dogodku. Ja, v info: na prvi cestninski postaji je kazalo še 6 stopinj C, v Krtini samo še 2. Bo treba drugič z avtom na pot... Leon

Podjetnik oziroma ti v tem primeru izvajaš davčno goljufijo, ki je utemeljena na fiktivni poti (torej - zlagani poti oz. stroških). Glej ,stvar je simpl - če se ti delaš neumnega, potem ne slučajno kdaj jokcat, če se kdo tebi dela neumnega, ko kaj pričakuješ od njega. Pa ne slučajno čez državo šimfat, saj jo očitno opehariš takoj, ko jo lahko. VSak pač po svoje, upam pa, da bo temu kdaj konec.

Za tvoja leta bi bla primerna dt 50 brez zamere, sam mislm da mau pretiravaš. Navsezadnje je pa to tvoja stvar...

Iz lastnih izkušenj(no ni jih glih dosti) lahko povem da rataš zelo živčen če ti stranka diha za vratom pa "use" ve pa ti govori kako naj delaš tudi mene ne moti da stoji pred vrati delavnice oz. v delavnici dokler je tiho in se ti ne mota okoli avta/motorja

škoda da ga nisi za kakšno sivo celico al pa 2.... se oproščam ampak moral sem, ko sem tole pravljico prebral aja pomojem je triangel bolj zate, ker sintisajzer ma preveč tipk......

V določenih primerih gre za navadne davčne goljufije, ne pa za "znajti se je treba".

Enakega mnenja pusti mojstru da dela kot mojster :notworthy: sicer se pa hitro izve kateri je zaupanja vreden .

Se popolnoma strinjam. Pusti naj mehankar dela..vozim ga pa tudi samo k tistemu, ki je zaupanja vreden

trobezdalo to ti je komentar "motosvetovca"

Zjutraj stlačil psičko v prtljažnik, mal hrane in tekočine in vzpon na Vrtaško planino. Spet dan, ki ga nikakor ne bi hotel preživet v službi.... Mal utrinkov...

Pozdrav poletju

Daj ne trobezljaj ...

Jaz sem kupil v Hoferju letos zelo podobnega (Tevion=Medion) in dobro deluje. Na avtomobilu sem 2x polnil. Nimam pa namena, da bi to čez zimo priklopil zaradi vzdrževanje (ima to opcijo). Razen da so po pomoti barve in oznake klem zamenjali napravo deluje ok. (k sreči ima varovalo za take felerje) Drugače pa vsak accu ima življenjsko dobo, cena novega pa tudi ni pretirana, tako da...

No no ne bodimo bolj papeški od papeža!!! Naj vsak pove kaj si misli zakaj bi se morali zadrževati. Če jaz mislim da je Godnič ena navadna komunistična opranoglava pederčina pač tako tudi povem. Pri nas bi pa vsi nekaj v celofan zavijali in se po FDVjevsko leporečili poglejte zdaj je pregrešno že pomisliti kaj še le reči ciganu cigan. Mislim da je cigan čisto lepa slovenska beseda pa bi se je morali vsi izogibati. Lp

To so pač prejemki, ki pridejo s službo. Sam se zavzemam za ukinitev tega (in preoblikovanje plačnih modelov). Hkrati tudi za ukinitev možnosti obračunavanja potnih stroškov, saj se prav na tistem področju dogaja velik delo slovenske "sive ekonomije".

Glede razmerij je pač moje mnenje, da bi moral biti vsem zaposlenim zagotovljen nek minimum za človeka dostojno življenje in da od tod naprej plačilo raste glede na zahtevnost in odgovornost dela ter ostale posebnosti. Najvišjo plačo v javni upravi bi moral imeti predsednik vlade, vmes med njim in prej omenjenim minimumom pa se lahko razporedijo vsi ostali. In če predsednik vlade dobro opravlja svoje delo ima lahko zaradi mene 10.000€ neto plače in tako naprej navzdol, v razumnih okvirjih za proračun seveda (tako glede višine plač kot tudi števila in položaja javnih uslužbencev). Ljudje so največja vrednota in še tako dober sistem ne bo uporaben, če ni zadaj človek, ki z njim upravlja ali ga vzdržuje. Gospodarstvo v kapitalističnih družbah nima teh omejitev in se plače formirajo svobodno oz. kot je rekel nekdanji pogajalec združenja delodajalcev S.H.Milič - 'Samo nebo je meja'. Vendar pa lahko država z davčno politiko vpliva tudi na to. Prevelike razlike prej ali slej vodijo v deviacije in propad. Osnovno gonilo kapitalizma sicer je pohlep posameznika a ta pohlep mora imeti meje.

Kva si pa ti zdaj pameten? V privatnem sektorju so razmerja tudi 1 : 100 ... in ponekod so to celo poštena razmerja ... jebiga, vsak delavec pa lahko nekako dobi svoj kapital in štarta delat "za sebe" ... no, nekateri delavci pozabljajo, kaj pomeni "delati ves dan, tudi nosit odgovornost za druge, ko spiš", seveda pa so tudi nekateri lastniki govno, da ni večjega . Nauk je le eden - ne posploševat in ne bit po defaultu fauš.

Meni je to OK. Zdravnikov ni na pretek in od njih so odvisna naša življenja. Morajo biti dobro plačani. Ja, če mene vprašaš, bistveno bolje od gradbenih delavcev in medicinskih sester. Zdravnik se izobražuje dolgo, izobrazba je draga, marsičemu se med tem časom odrečejo, začnejo z zelo nizkimi plačami (za ta rang znanja!), in od njih je odvisno naše zdravje (seveda je v prvi vrsti odvisno od nas samih in od kakovosti genskega materiala, ki ga imamo vgrajenega). In ja - nekateri zdravniki si zaslužijo še več, kakšen pa tudi manj, verjetno. PS: ne poznam veliko zdravnikov, ki bi si lahko privoščili hude motorje, kakršen je tvoj ... Jaz sem imel na sumu tebe! Za Svet na Kanalu A bi bil dober! Evo, začni, pa da te vidimo ...

Danči s skuterjem ? To bi še šlo. Ampak skuter z Dančijem ? Ej, to ga je pa skuter najebal ...

Včasih tudi: - ni bilo demokracije - ni bilo forumov (valjda, kaj pa bi z njimi, če ni bilo demokracije) - ni bilo svobode gibanja, govora, odločanja - ni bilo lepih cest za motorje - ni bilo motorjev - svojo novopečeno ženo si, če je bila kolikor tolikor estetsko prijetna, kresnil šele drugi ... (razen redkih izjem) ... A če začnemo znova, boš TI pokazal, kako je treba? Skratka, če povzamem: ker tolk navijaš za stare, fevdalistične cajte, bi jaz rekel, da imaš izredno grdo babo. Wow. I'm good.

No, da ustvarjanje razdora deluje, še posebej pri tistih manj razgledanih, se lepo vidi pri raznih DukihMB, ki so tudi pri Romih in kje drugje zraven, ko se je treba kupčkati na pravoverne in ostale. Če so ovčke neumne jih pač veliko lažje odirati.

Sm pomislu, da bi svojo babo v motosvet upisal. Tako, da bi imel vsaj teoretične možnosti kako zrušit.

.....za enga bodočga norca na 2 kolesih :grim

Aprilia RSV 1000R FACTORY 16000 prevoženih kilometrov Oprema FACTORY: - Ohlins vilice, zadnji amortizer in stabilizator krmila - Brembo zavore in pumpe - pletene zavorne cevi - veliko karbona - OZ Racing lahka platišča P.S.: NAPRODAJ - Ugodno! Link: http://www.motosvet.com/ads/motocikli/izpis.php?cid=1213

Da ne bo tema čisto zamrla. Danes en lep, lep sprehod na Macesnovec, ki sem ga na sliki označil z rdečo puščico. V zgornjem delu poti pot vodi med samimi macesni (zato pa je Macesnovec)...barve pa...moj OLYMPUS jih ne zna "obdelat" tako, kot bi hotel. Razgled na vse strani, ves greben od Kukove Špice do Stenarja, Karavanke od Kepe do....Stola in še naprej....

Maš pa kosmate roke

Spremembe od zadnje objave slik: Akrapovič Spojler Zahvalil bi se Marjanu Pohajaču za spojler, zadeva izgleda dober! Tnx!

Doba rižote se je končala :grim ...začenja se doba šagetov :grrr ...v epizodi: Bombnik aka Fabrška Tuna je doma, tam kjer Calvo nima za burek :evilgrin: Letnik 2007...crash padi na poti in sopotnikov sedež z ročkami...v drugem planu pušlc Akrapotov...sicer pa ni kej dodat...lepo, da je že kičast ...ufuf...

A nisi malo teme zgrešil. To sodi bolj v rubriko ''kako sem pjan''...

Ovinka nisi zvozil zato, ker si se samo nagnil, kot na motorju. Krmila pa nisi obrnil. Pri vožnji z motorjem se samo nagneš, krmila pa ne obračaš. Pri avtu pa samo volan obrneš, nagniti se pa ni treba. ATV/quad je pa nekje vmes. Ker je preozek, bi se hitro prevrnil, zato se je potrebno presesti na notranjo stran v ovinku. Ker pa je po zasnovi bolj podoben avtomobilu, moraš pa še obrniti krmilo, he, he. Upam, da sem ti dovolj nazorno povedal. Lahko mi pa kdaj demonstriraš (ker imaš že veliko km za sabo), kako se ti v ovinku nagneš na zunanjo stran... :kva2:

Prosim če lahko obrazložiš,zakaj se je tale v desnem ovinku nagnil in presedel na desno stran,desno notranje kolo pa je kljub temu privzdignjeno.Po tvoji logiki se to ne bi naredilo,če bi se z telesom nagnil na levo stran.

Fantje, ne govorite traparij, če ne poznate zadeve. Pri vseh prevoznih sredstvih se pri levem ovinku nagneš na levo, na notranjo stran ovinka. Svoje naredi centrifugalna sila, ki te vleče ven iz ovinka. In ti bi se kar nagnil ven. A se pri vožnji z gokarti tudi nagibaš ven iz ovinka, ali pa le tiščiš glavo na notranjo stran? Daj premisli, preden kaj takega zineš, da se ne bo še kdo ubil zaradi tvojih nasvetov.