Kawasaki Z 750

[Dave]

Kaj pa navor? (moc ze vem, da priblizno 110 konjev - verjetno na gredi, ne?)

BTW: 7123 * 236 = 1.681.028

Ampak tecaj se bo verjetno se kaj spremenil...

[Sanda7]

Cena se mi kar dopade,drgač pa je na strani www.dks.si tud kratek filemček

[RoadKill]

Dober stroj. V primerjavi z 1000 - manjša mašina, manjši navor. Navor 75 Nm pri 8.200 obr. . Ugodno razmerje cena-moč-registracija-pa tudi oblika ni slaba.

Popravljeno Oktober 24, 2003. Popravil RoadKill

[flero]

Test kolegov na moto-station.com :ph34r:

p.s. (prevod online zato je pa mau tko tko) :cry: pa rijetno branje :devil:

On the vagueness of succés of its famous Z 1000 (4 000 units sold in France in 2003!), Kawasaki inserts the nail in this category of the sporting roadsters. And Z 750, its clone in a format presents hardly assagi. Appointment counts, on the basis of 1000, the manufacturer succeeded in preserving intact the original concept, of the high level performances and an approval impressing with the daily newspaper, by reducing the price of l?ensemble appreciably. Posted to 9 999?, the 1000 are already particularly well placed. Whereas to say of the 750, which promises 110 CH. (106 CH for France) for 6 999? (for the first 800 models, to the 23/10/03)! Without question, this motor bike will become one of the best businesses of the moment, and within sight of this first test, one extremely risks l?arracher in November (2003) in the concessions... 110 CH for 6 999? ! Visually it is true, Z 750 deprives to us of l?effet of surprise felt at the time of discovered its devancière. One knows well from now on this aggressive line, this compact gauge, this style "tuning" inspired of the street bikes (sporting transforms in roadsters) very appraisals on our premises. Directly begun again of the 1000, its engine posts sizeable dimensions, while the large tubes of the framework "diamond" reassure. Z 750 n?est not a "model reduced", but quite simply one 1000 gone down in cubic capacity and less richly equipped. Here thus the receipt which makes it possible to the manufacturer to propose this motor bike at such a gravitational price, while cutting down on its margins. Hoped volumes of sale (5 000 units are planned for France!) will optimize the profitability of l?engin. In fact, as us Mr. Teranishi reveals it, president de Kawasaki France, project Z included dice the beginning the design of the two machines, even if one hesitated some time in Japan over the cubic capacity. Finally, the s?est choice deferred on 750 Cm3, a judicious compromise which promised a high level potential and a notable approval with the daily newspaper. "Z 750 n?est not only one motor bike of beginner. It is also studied for the experienced motorcyclists wishing to combine performances and versatility ", Mr. Teranishi transmits the message, remains with l?apprécier, handlebar in hands.

Beautiful surprises If the 1000 are remarkably compact, one can consider that this 750 is shown this time "normally" dimensioned compared to the standards of the category. By taking seat on board, one however finds quickly his marks. The handlebar steel (aluminum over the 1000) or the removal of the hub caps joining the tank to the radiator betrays the few made savings. But for the remainder, the motor bike accomodates you "as at the house" thanks to a well thought ergonomics, quasi right bust, legs reasonably folded up... for the pilot only. The fixing more in height and behind of the footrests on new turntables harms seriously the comfort of the passenger, already not famous over the 1000. Here are which is said, Z 750 remains a roadster with sporting tendency for single person not inevitably hardened. Because the catch in hands of l?engin reserve of beautiful surprises. There was the not very expressive memory d?un driving with low mode on Z 1000. Its small s?ur is shown definitely more pleasant on this point. The raucous sound (rock'n'roll?) new four in a n?a nothing to envy that of the duplicated silencers of its devancière, while the nervousness from the "four in line" in fact a companion plus sympathetic nerve at small rate/rhythm. The instrument panel always so readable with its circular rev counter with crystals liquid confirms it. The technicians reacted well to the first criticisms. Soft, l?injection doubles butterfly makes it possible to begin again on a thread of gas without hollow, jolts... and trailing. So that l?on takes pleasure to roll up downtown, without having too much to play with l?embrayage, and especially, the gear box. As over the 1000, that one is hard with low mode, requiring for l?instant a handling in force to condescend to s?affranchir its task. But it is true that our motor bikes d?essai posted well not enough kilometers to rule definitively on this point. On the other hand, the behavior of l?engin, for its part, is judged without reserve. Left the by-pass of Malaga, we take l?autoroute a few tens of kilometers before directing us towards the mountain.

Good seed of Z Change of decoration, change of control. On the long right ends, Z 750 reveals its play. Even fixed in 6th, the engine answers the handle correctly. From 4 000 tr/min, it allows d?atteindre quickly its cruising speed. Simplified in its drawing, the head of fork offers a sufficient protection to cross without tiring too much in the neighbourhoods of the 150 km/h meter. Better s?accrocher with the handlebar is worth nevertheless by tightening the broad tank well. Because on the connections, the front suspensions tendency to react curtly. The motor bike n?en does not preserve less its course without too sourciller. Good seed of Z could not lie, the 750 inherits thus excellent dynamic qualities of its large s?ur, and one s?en levels. Despite everything, the weather hardly invites us to play for l?instant. The wet roadway allows at least d?apprécier this facility which will delight the beginners as much as the experts. The progressiveness and the goodwill of the engine with low mode constitute one with the daily newspaper more and strolls some. And judicious geometry of the framework, a happiness in more constant control. In direction of Ronda this time, the road network connects the turns with mountainside. It was already remarkable over the 1000, and preserves almost all its qualities on the 750: this nose gear fact undoubtedly reference at the roadsters by its facility and its effectiveness. It is difficult to rule here on a profit in agility compared to the 1000 whereas the less inertia of the engine is counterbalanced by an angle of fork slightly more open. At all events, this Kawasaki always excels in entry of turn by the facility and the naturalness of its direction. No moment, it is necessary to fight with it in the sequences. Z 750 preserves this instinctive character of roadster which had already made us love his big brother. Admittedly, the suspensions of worse quality harm slightly the rigour of its behavior, without really l?entacher. The mono-shock absorber essentially appears less comfortable at low speed, and more dryness in its reactions on the bumps. It is thus advisable to remain vigilant at the time of accelerations according to the coating. Because the four cylinders n?attend not its turn to throw into a panic the directions.

260 km/h meter guaranteed! With 110 CH in the handle, difficult indeed to make the fine mouth. Z 750 offers a rather incredible level of performances at this price, with in particular nearly 260 km/h meter guaranteed! But that those which s?attendaient with a hysterical surge revise their schedule of conditions. Promised with a large audience, this Z 750 rather skilfully spares l?efficacity, the standards d?homologation and the performances, without falling into l?exclusivity. Thus, it goes up in mode with force and effectiveness, but without really exploding like one 750 GSX-R or one 600 Hornet for example. Is enough full with semi-mode, its acceleration reinforced without brutality towards the 7 000 tr/min to reach 11 000 tr/min with regularity and? sonority. The howl of sound four cylinders remains indeed a permanent reason for satisfaction while the regular behavior of the engine makes it possible to spare the reactions of the part cycles. Thus, Z 750 remains healthy at all the rates/rhythms. This homogeneity is found in the power of the braking, which will undoubtedly not resist several turns of circuit with unslung pace, but which s?avère in any case sufficient on road. With l?avant, the floating clamps with two pistons get corrosive quite as honest as their power, provided that l?on seizes the lever with four fingers. Associated one goes up pneumatic of first order (Bridgestone BT 012/019), here is thus a at the very least effective cocktail, and for any statement, very trying. Because vis-a-vis with the roadsters 600 Cm3 competitor, Z 750 profit d?un more obvious by its driving approval and the behavior of its part cycles. Sporting effective but also utility correct, this Kawasaki thus offers a very sharpened versatility. Admittedly, the demanding sportsmen will be able to reproach him the lack of adjustment and "smoothness" of its suspensions, of power of its brakes and d?expressivity of its engine with high mode. Z 1000 will thus answer well better their waitings. But such as we discovered it, Z 750 remains much more accessible to the greatest number and s?affiche undoubtedly like l?une of the queens of the years to come, with the manner of Suzuki Bandit in their time. The ZR-7 can thus quietly withdraw catalogue from it to make the happiness of sparing motorcyclists on the second-hand market. Kawasaki Z 750 takes the changing.

Engine: 748 Cm3, 4 times, 4 cylinders on line, boring 68,4 mm X race 50,9 mm, cooled by water, 2 ACT and 4 soup./cyl., electronic injection diam. 34 mm, 6 speeds, drive chain

France: power 106 CH.

Free version: power 110 CH. (80,9 kw) with 11 000 tr/min, couple 7,5 daN.m with 8 200 tr/min Left cycle: tally standard steel diamond, fork diam. 41 mm, mono-shock absorber AR,

brakes AV 2 discs diam. 300 mm/clamps 2 pistons - AR disc diam. 220 mm/clamp 1 piston,

tires AV 120/70 X 17 - AR 180/55 X 17

Gauge: footing 1 425 mm, drives out 104 mm/angle 24°5, height of saddle 815 mm, tank 18 liters,

dry weight (factory) 195 kg

Performances: (free version) maximum speed env. 240 km/h,

conso moy. of the test env. 7 l./100 km

:OK: - price! - driving approval - performances - versatility

:BUA: - promptness with high mode - suspensions dry - limps hard with low mode - duet

Photographs J-P. Boulmé, D. Reygondeau and manufacturer B)

[Guzzila]

:BUA: - promptness with high mode - suspensions dry - limps hard with low mode - duet

Lahko kdo prevede te slabosti, ker mi strokovni angleški izrazi delajo težave.

Sicer pa so v zadnjih številkah Motorista, Moto Pulsa in MOTORRADA objavljeni testi Z 750.

[Pervy]

morem priznat, da sem malo razočaran po tem ko sem bral prve teste, nekako ni čutit nekega navdušenja, kar pomeni, da očitno motor ni nič posebnega oziroma nima nekih karakteristik, ki bi posebaj izstopale.

če sem v vseh testih pravilno "bral med vrsticami" je torej zaslediti, da je še to en "soft" naked ala fazer, SV in podobno. kultiviran motor (bljak, hočemo divjo mašino - kawa je bila vedno znana po tem), nenastavljivo vzmetenje, ki je sigurno (pre)mehko za pravo "streetfight" divjanje, solidne zavore, ki pa spet niso neka ostrina,.... torej očitno bolj streetfight izgled kot pa tudi lastnosti. :?

saj je jasno, da so hoteli nizko ceno in "user friendly" motor ampak a more res bit danes vsak motor že tako prijazen, da bi ga kljub 110 KM lahko vozili že popolni začetniki? :hmm:

ccccccccc..... upam da se motim in da je Z 750 še vedno ohranil kwak dušo in ni neka pocukrana soft varianta. :xx:

[Thundercat]

saj je jasno, da so hoteli nizko ceno in "user friendly" motor ampak a more res bit danes vsak motor že tako prijazen, da bi ga kljub 110 KM lahko vozili že popolni začetniki? :hmm:

ccccccccc..... upam da se motim in da je Z 750 še vedno ohranil kwak dušo in ni neka pocukrana soft varianta. :xx:

ja pocukrana varjanta...zakaj...kaj pa je narobe da lahko tudi začetnik vozi tako zadevo....sej zato ker je motor primeren za nekoga ki ni vajen divjih zveri še ne pomeni da tebi nebi smela odgovarjat....tale motor je definitivno nekaj posebnega...zaradi izgleda ki mu ga ni para in pa nekaj podatkov ki so za njegov razred čisto kul....

ne obremenjuj se s tem ker motor ti lahko čisto drugače leži kot pa v vsem napisanem...kar poglej koliko folka se vozi z motorji katere ne bi sam niti pogledal kaj šele peljal......

je pa prav da so naredili tak motor ki bo dostopen večjemu krogu oboževalcev...vsaj iz mojega stališča....

[Pervy]

ne ne nismo se razumeli, jasno da ni slabo če je motor predvidljiv in nezahteven. pri tako divjem izgledu in ker je naked kjer nekega blaznega udobja že zaradi upora ni, pa bi si želel, da bi vozne lastnosti ustrezale izgledu.

torej da bi motor magari imel kako "luknjo" v navoru in bi se mu zato v drugem območju "vtrgalo" (to so kawe včasih znale :naughty: ), da vzmetenje nebi bilo nastavljeno kot kompromis ampak bi bilo bolj športno trdo, sicer bi malo bolj trpel ampak med divjanjem bi ti bilo vse poplačano. da bi zavore zahtevale več znanja in občutka, bi pa zato delovale brezkompromisno, ko je treba....itd.

pač imam zadnje čase občutek, da se vsi trudijo (ne samo kawa) narediti čim bolj sterilno prijazen motor, ki bi ga lahko vozil čisto vsak in zanemarjajo emocije. pač 110 KM ni ravno za vsako roko in nevem zakaj se sploh trudijo, pa še dosti "kulturnih" motorjev je zunaj. za allround ima kawa že itak ZR7, ta pa bi lahko bil bolj divji in ustrezen izgledu.

saj je lepo če je motor "krotek" ima pa svoj šarm vozit tudi težje obvladljiv motor, ki ti na koncu nudi več užitka pa še "pameti" se hitro naučiš. pač bi pričakoval da bo Z 750 (in Z 1000) bolj takšen motor. zaenkrat je zgleda tak samo apriliin tuono, ki verjami da je užitek in mu odpustiš, da ni tako sterilen.

no upam, da bom imel priložnost se prepričati sam in upam, da se motim ker mi je drugače motor zelo všeč.

[Guzzila]

Prebral sem članke v Motoristu in Moto Pulsu.

Moram reči, da sem zadovoljen z napisanim. Edina stvar, ki jo novinarji grajajo so nekoliko neizrazite prednje zavore, kar pa me osebno ne moti saj se da to z minimalnimi stroški izboljšati (stahlflex + druge ploščice), če seveda sam oceniš da te to moti.

Čeprav prednje vzmetenje ni nastavljivo je kompromis med udobjem in športnostjo dobro zadet. Če pa se ti že zdi, da je motor premehek pa enostavno zamenjaš vzmeti z progresivnimi, kar sem že sam prakticiral.

Mislim, da je za ta denar Z 750 trenutno najboljša varianta nakupa med nakedi. :yea2:

[Guzzila]

ccccccccc..... upam da se motim in da je Z 750 še vedno ohranil kwak dušo in ni neka pocukrana soft varianta. :xx:

Kwak duša se baje skriva med 8.000 in 12.000 rpm. :OK: :yea2:

[Guzzila]

Ker se mi že sanja o Z-eju sem se malo igral s statistiko.

Če ga kupim za 7.123 eurov potem dobim:

1. motor, ki pri registraciji pade v nižji razred

2. motor, ki dobro zgleda

3. motor, ki glede na dosedanje teste nima pravih slabosti (ima pa veliko

dobrih)

4. motor s katerim se lahko sam ali s "prikolico" odpeljem na daljšo pot

5. motor s katerim se lahko zdivjam (tudi na dirkališču, če že tako nanese)

5. za 1 KM plačam samo 64.7 eura, kar je po primerjalnih izračunih

rekordno nizki znesek :OK:

S tem modelom se bo Kawasaki še močneje dvignil iz pepela.

Who can beat that! :yea2:

[dejci]

...http://www.kawasaki.de/news/mc_z750.htm

With the large comparison test of middle class Bikes of the magazine HP? The sport motorcycle magazine left the new Z750 everything competitor inside behind itself. It had to do the 750er with strong adversaries. Motorcycles such as Ducati monster 800S, Honda Hornet 600, Suzuki SV650 and Yamaha FZ6 Fazer nevertheless rank among the most popular motorcycles of their class in Germany. Nevertheless Kawasakis Z750 could become generally accepted due to their engine and chassis qualities against the competition. Result of the HP test crew: "the Kawasaki Z750 brings the victory in, since it is a motorcycle all around succeeded. It feels grown-up on and hardly affords weaknesses." Final conditions

1. Kawasaki Z750 361 points

2. Suzuki SV650 358 points

3. Honda Hornet 600 350 points

4. Yamaha FZ6 Fazer 345 points

5. Ducati monster 800S 341 points

:OK:

[Ice]

Če ga kupim za 7.123 eurov potem dobim:

1. motor, ki pri registraciji pade v nižji razred

2. motor, ki dobro zgleda

3. motor, ki glede na dosedanje teste nima pravih slabosti (ima pa veliko dobrih)

4. motor s katerim se lahko sam ali s "prikolico" odpeljem na daljšo pot

5. motor s katerim se lahko zdivjam (tudi na dirkališču, če že tako nanese)

5. za 1 KM plačam samo 64.7 eura, kar je po primerjalnih izračunih rekordno nizki znesek :OK:

Who can beat that! :yea2:

:topic: a vendar:

najprej odgovor na vprasanje: bandit 12 :yea2:

ad 1. sicer ne pade v nizji vendar.... ;)

ad 2. izgleda zelo dobro

ad 3. enako, ima celo odlicne lastnosti

ad 4. veckrat sprobano

ad 5. veckrat sprobano

ad 6. € 63,80/KM ....N verzija s popustom ;)

[Dr. _MAXXI_]

A se že kej govori kdaj ga bo možno videt pa sprobat?

Mi daje kar malo resno razmišljat. :naughty:

[Pervy]

A se že kej govori kdaj ga bo možno videt pa sprobat?

..sprobat? :?

optimist :lol1: - ko ga boš kupil ti ali tvoj prijatelj :devil:

[SiR]

Final conditions

1.  Kawasaki Z750          361 points

2.  Suzuki SV650            358 points

3.  Honda Hornet 600      350 points

4.  Yamaha FZ6 Fazer      345 points

5.  Ducati monster 800S  341 points

:OK:

Yes, to mi delaj! :kva1:

Yess meni tudi !!!

[Guzzila]

A se že kej govori kdaj ga bo možno videt pa sprobat?

Spomladi bo treba iti nekam v Avstrijo. Tam vedo, da nihče noče kupiti mačka v žaklju. Pri nas žal še ne - razen svetlih izjem npr. Aprilie.

Nasploh mislim, da bi si Kawasaki zaslužil boljšega uvoznika kot je DKS.

[Lindau]

Spomladi bo treba iti nekam v Avstrijo. Tam vedo, da nihče  noče kupiti mačka v žaklju.

Nasploh mislim, da bi si Kawasaki zaslužil boljšega uvoznika kot je DKS.

1.)Jp, ideja ni slaba. A lahko v Avstriji vozis testno vozilo; kot tujec?

2) To je si zelo lepo povedal, jaz bi verjetno to malo bolj grobo :fight2: :BUA: ponazoril. <_< B) :wacko:

[Dr. _MAXXI_]

@ PERVY ..... vem ja sam kaj čem ..... sej motor bi sma enkrat probal .... ne kot babo ki jo moreš dostikrat sprobat za mal dalšo furo :lol1:

@ KAWAMAN ...... to bi pa bla tudi dobra ideja ..... se bom jst pa tudi mal za italjane pozanimal .... eni bi šli na en konc drugi na drugi.....

Škoda edino da so ga tko oskubli napram Z 1000

Sm danes nabavu TUTTOMOTO od avgusta in je notri Z750 sam je skor isti kot Z1000 in je predstavljen kot Z636 ..... bom mal zvečer prebral pa poročal....

Res je črn lep sam se vsak kurc gor pozna ....

[Guzzila]

1.)Jp, ideja ni slaba. A lahko v Avstriji vozis testno vozilo; kot tujec?

Brez posebnih problemov. Testiral sem Multistrado in ZRX 1200, važno je da maš vozniško ustrezne kategorije. Priporočljivo je da se tja pripelješ z motorjem, da vidijo da si resen.

[BaTeMaN]

1.)Jp, ideja ni slaba. A lahko v Avstriji vozis testno vozilo; kot tujec?

Brez posebnih problemov. Testiral sem Multistrado in ZRX 1200, važno je da maš vozniško ustrezne kategorije. Priporočljivo je da se tja pripelješ z motorjem, da vidijo da si resen.

A lahko poveš, kje ti tole dovolijo, ker me resno zanima. V nasprotnem primeru mislim čakat na konec leta... in Munchen za testiranje jeklenih konjičkov... :(

Kje se trgovina ali karkoli že nahaja... v Avstriji seveda in pa ali jih ne moti dejstvo, da si iz Slovenije.

[Guzzila]

A lahko poveš, kje ti tole dovolijo, ker me resno zanima. V nasprotnem primeru mislim čakat na konec leta... in Munchen za testiranje jeklenih konjičkov... :(

Kje se trgovina ali karkoli že nahaja... v Avstriji seveda in pa ali jih ne moti dejstvo, da si iz Slovenije.

Poglej na www.kawasaki.at in poišči sebi najbližjega trgovca. Mislim da ne bi smel imeti nobenih problemov. Sam sem ZRX testiral pri prodajalcu v bližini Leibnitza, res pa je da ni šlo za popolnoma novi motor, kot je to primer z Z 750.

Sem pa pri MOTOKLINIK v Leibnitzu dobil za test popolnoma novo Multistrado.

[vulcan]

A mislite, da se pri DKS-u ne bo dalo dobit enega testnega Z-750 za kaksen krog? :? Glede na to, da je cena kr zanimiva in motor dobro zgleda mislim, da bi se moral kr dobro prodajati. Sigurno bi pa pomagalo, ce bi se dalo dobiti kasnega testnega, da ga lahko malo sprobas preden se odlocis za nakup.

Meni gre kr ornk po zivcih tale motor, samo v letu 2004 se bom moral kr mojo Varo vozit potem pa ne vem, ce ne bom zamenjal. Definitivno ga bom pa nekje prej sprobal.

[Dr. _MAXXI_]

Oj.

Sem pisal na DKS in stvar je sledeča:

- Dobili ga bodo enkrat decembra ko pride pošilka za evropo

- Testnega motorja s strani DKS nebo ker v Sloveniji ni možno dobit kasko zavarovanje če ni vnaprej znan voznik (ni mi jasno kako ma to urejeno Aprilia in BMW)

motorček se bo verjetno dobro prodajal ker je cena kr ugodna napram drugim .... hornetka je shor 200 ksit dražja FZ6 je pa skor tam tam ... tko ko mal debatiram opažam da marsikoga ne pritegne preveč oblika ostrih liniji sam ma pa 110 hp in so vsi tkoj veseli :OK: ...

Nič si ga bo treba v živo pogledat.

[BaTeMaN]

Zadnjič se vozim po MB pa vidim, da je DKS trgovina tam sedaj prazna, pa me zanima kje je sedaj ? Ne poznam MB tako po ulicah, samo tam pri Merkurju ga več ni..

Pa ko se bo pojavil motor not bi blo lepo, če bi kdo tle to objavil, da se grem slinit.