KTM LC8 950 in 990 Adventure (S)

[Noise]

uaaaaa :OK: Kva dela un tip s ta uranznmu. Tud na konc je pod minus prikazana cena. Sicer je ene 100 000 drazji kot pr nas.

Mislim da je 1000€ dražji kot pri nas... Je pa zanimivo, da cene BMW R1150GS ne komentira nihče od švabov. Vsi pa vemo, da je bemfl dosti dražji..pri nas je težko dobiti kakšen pameten kos pod 3mio...

[flero]

Mega :yea2: , po temu filmčku mi bodo še endure všeč ratale :xx: !

p.s. oranžen je pa špica :devil:

[Noise]

Spare parts katalog za LC8 950 Adventure /S

http://www.ktminfo.com/partscat/Page.asp?C...548&Cat=3208106

[Noise]

Torej, 2004 modele so po Evropi že začeli prodajati.. spodaj na fotki je ne-S model, oranžen...

Hehe, :lol: tip je dal potem takoj zamenjat sprednji blatnik, ker je enobarvni oranžen res :SS

(fotka v naslednji objavi)

[Noise]

Z novim blatnikom in usnjenim sedežem...

Mmm, res je strupen... :wub:

[Noise]

Objava iz advrider foruma:

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Avtor: KTMax, Amsterdam, the Netherlands

22.12.2003

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Comparing test KTM 950, Aprilia Caponord Rally Raid, BMW GS Adventure

I just picked up a copy of Promotor with a comparing test of these 3 scoots. Frequently seen in this neck'o the woods. Promotor is a respected Dutch bike mag known for their thorough testing. Two of the three journo's ride GSs of their own. So much for objectivity...

In any case the (non S) 950 wipes the floor with the other two in an almost painful way. In just about every aspect. A quick summary:

Highway

KTM offers the best wind protection. A lot of turbulence on the GS and Capo. KTM is the fastest, both in acceleration and top speed. Performance wise the LC8 is in a league of its own. Capo lags power below 5500 RPM, The GS lags it above that. Capo is the most vibe free. The GS has oil tanker stability and the best seat. KTM the worst seat.

Mountain roads / B-roads

On these roads first prize goes to the KTM again. The Capo and GS struggle to keep it in sight. When pushed hard(er) the KTM just rides away. The GS is too heavy and bulky to keep up although the chassis itself is good enough. The Capo suffers from vague-ness from the soft'n spongy suspension and the engine needs to be rev'd constantly to ride around the lack of low end ooomph. With panniers the Capo and GS deck out too soon on the twisty stuff (good pictures though!). The brakes of all three are good. Different but roughly equally effective. BMW grabs points with its ABS.

Off road

Obviously there is just no contest here. The KTM is like an MX bike compared to the others. The GS Adventure - quote - "feels like a whale". "As if you take an RT off road". Very hard to keep on track. The bike is let down - again - by its weight and bulk. The KTM's light and quick handling together with the punchy aggressive engine doesn't make it a beginners friend off road. In more experienced (or daring) hands it just flies and is in a league of its own again. The Capo - strangely enough - is the most friendly bike for less experienced off road riders. The lower seating, soft engine pick-up and soft suspension work as an advantage as long as the speeds are low to moderate. Anything more and it gets seriously out of shape.

The test goes on about everyday practicality (what?...) and some other things. The KTM loses points on the limited steering lock and the absence of a 12V power outlet. The BMW on a pannier breaking and falling off the bike. The Capo's panniers leaked and some other nitty gritty like this.

The testers concluded that a standard GS would have done a better job in this test and more-or-less rated the Adventure as a fashion victim. Leaving the Adventure as a comfortable long distance touring bike. The Capo Rally Raid gets praise for it's low(ish) price for the complete package with all the standard accessoires. But does get a thumb down for being too much of a dresser while it's a nice'n soft touring bike with Rally looks too. The KTM is the star of this test. Sort of the stand-in stuntman if the two movie stars get worried about their make up and fingernails.

[marem]

Nikoli mi sam KTM niu bil preveč všeč (nekako preoglat), ampak ti vsa ta uporabnost, performanca, superiornost nad konkurenco nekako prirase k srcu......kdo ve morda nekoč (ko bo Noise prodajal) :D

[BlazS]

Jaz ce bi imel denar bi ga sel zdele narocit. Res je vredu motor. Bom zgleda mogu pocakat na kaksen 2010 letnik <_<

[Noise]

Je pa sedaj na voljo tudi cestni komplet gum v tej dimenziji... (če že kdo hoče narediti greh in spremeniti zadevo v street-only motocikel)...

This might not be of much interest for most but Bridgestone announched the bias Battlax BT45 street tire in 90/90-21 size specifically for all roads. A 150/70-18 was already available so AFAIK this is the first street tire (or any alternative tire for that matter) available as a set for the 950.

I've done some digging and reading around the web and so far I've read nothing but praise and enthusiasm about them. They seem to be very sticky and provide excellent and light handling. They are even used on race tracks by guys who ride old GSXRs and bikes like that. Priase here also. Their sporty dual compound obviously doesn't offer the longest thread life. A good sign IMO...  A rear seems to last something between 6 and 9K KMs or so.

I haven't found anything on the web about the 90/90-21 yet. It was a press message from Bridgestone in a Dutch bike mag with a picture.

Vir: advrider.com forum, avtor KTMax

[Noise]

Drugače pa, ker LC8 Duke še ni na voljo, fino pa je en motociklel porabiti za dvoje (offroad in supermoto), folk že dela predelave...

Tale je se mi zdi iz Anglije, vsaj v MCN so ga že testirali...

[Noise]

Tale pa iz Nemčije -- 17" platišča spredaj in zadaj, gor pa Metzeler M1 Sportec pnevmatike... Baje se pelje kot raketa...

[marem]

Tale pa iz Nemčije -- 17" platišča spredaj in zadaj, gor pa Metzeler M1 Sportec pnevmatike... Baje se pelje kot raketa...

Tudi izgleda kot raketa, sicer je meni bolj všeč lc8 v srevrno-sivi....a kdo sem jaz, da bi ocenjeval..... B)

[Noise]

Takole zadeva zgleda z rally tanki od 660-ke in 2-in-1 Akrapovičem... :ph34r: :yea2:

[Noise]

Another one...

[Noise]

Malo za šalo, malo za res :wub:

[Noise]

Noise kakšni so servisni intervali in kaj zahtevajo(tja do 24000 recimo)?

Obljuba dela dolg...

Servisni intervali, opis potrebnih del...

[Noise]

Cene 2004:

950 LC8 … 2.790.000 SIT

950 LC8 – S … 2.814.000 SIT

950 LC8 – S / MODRA … 2.868.000 SIT

[Noise]

Iz ADVrider foruma...

I picked up the January issue of the German bike mag "Touren-fahrer" yesterday. They are running TWO 950 Adventures through long-term tests! A regular Silver and an Orange S model. The Silver bike has 32.000 KMs on the dail while the S is over 20K too. So this is more 50.000 test kilometers!

Problems?? None!... Nothing, zip, zero, nada!!...

Both bikes are ridden by 5 or 6 different journo's. Taken off road, long vacation rides, daily commuting etc. Hardcore enduro guys, touring heavyweights and clip-on race geeks switch keys. And the keys of both Adventures' are the first that are grabbed from their test fleet. The only critisism they have is the complicated precedure for checking the oil level. That's all. Beside this, nothing but praise and worship on every aspect of the bike and calling the LC8 engine Austria's Schwarzenegger... 

At the start of this test they were wondering if the euphoric impression the 950 made on the worldwide press would hold over time and much, much more KMs than a typical test-spin around the block. It does... And it gets even better with time.

These are not my words but just a reflection of the article. I though it's a nice possitive addition to the reliabilty discussion on the 950. I'm very curious how the bikes will do with 50K on both dails!

Še ena...

a friend is just retourned to SUDAN.. 4000 km of hard offroad...

the only bike with NO problems? LC8

other africa twin and gs stopped by dirty fuel and other things...

his LC8 has 20.000 km but 60% are africa trips....

[bobokrajnc]

Preberi še test v novem Moto pulsu, predvsem zaključek testa :devil: :devil:

LP Bobo B)

[Noise]

Preberi še test v novem Moto pulsu, predvsem zaključek testa :devil: :devil:

Ne bom ga kupoval, citiraj...

[BlazS]

Noise zdej mas lc8 ze nekaj casa in si se dodobra seznanil z njim. Povej, kaj te je na motorju razocaralo. Kaksna napaka? Dela vredu? Povprecna opraba?

Vceraj sem se z enim pogovarjal, pa je trdil, da ima lc8 gotov slabo vetrno zascito. Vsaj slabso kot GS1150. Jaz sem namrec v enem izmed prejsnjih postov bral test, ki pravi, da ima boljso vetrno zascito.

Kaj ti mislis o tem?

[bobokrajnc]

Ne bom ga kupoval, citiraj...

Na primerjalnem testu mu je odpovedal motor iz še neznanega razloga, tako da so ga morali odšlepati s prikolico. Konec zgodbe in testa!

LP Bobo B)

[premza]

Jaz nobenim testom več ne zaupam! :D

Vse je ena sama (tako ali drugače plačana) reklama! :P

Popravljeno Februar 6, 2004. Popravil premza

[Noise]

Na primerjalnem testu mu je odpovedal motor iz še neznanega razloga, tako da so ga morali odšlepati s prikolico. Konec zgodbe in testa!

Shit happens. Pa saj ni prvi in edini... ne KTM ne motocikel nasploh...

Bom pa poiskal še kakšno zgodbo o neuspehu... (ehehhe, upam, da se ne zgodi kakšna meni :o )

Mislim, da je en američan imel problem z neko lajtngo za olje na motociklu iz čisto prve produkcije, pa so menda to že tovarniško zrihtali od aprila 2003 naprej.

[Noise]

Povej, kaj te je na motorju razocaralo.

Nič zaenkrat.

Kaksna napaka?

Nobene zaenkrat.

Dela vredu?

:afro1: :yea2:

Povprecna opraba?

Ne spomnem se v tem trenutku, ker sem ravno ene druge stvari preračunaval porabe itd... je pa majhna, mislim da okrog 6 litrov...? Ne vem.. bom ob priliki malo zmeril...

Vceraj sem se z enim pogovarjal, pa je trdil, da ima lc8 gotov slabo vetrno zascito. Vsaj slabso kot GS1150. Jaz sem namrec v enem izmed prejsnjih postov bral test, ki pravi, da ima boljso vetrno zascito.

Kaj ti mislis o tem?

In kdo je bil ta stručko? Stavim, da se na motorju še ni peljal. Vetrna zaščita je po vseh testih - in po lastnih izkušnjah - definitivno ena zelo hvaljenih reči na LC8... Sploh pri višjih hitrostih je nora... Mislim, da je bilo celo nekaj govora o tem, da bo Touratech neke adapter variante delal za druge motocikle, s katero boš lahko pripel od LC8 vetrobran recimo na LC4 in pa nekatere druge velike endure...